Sunday 9th December Demonstrations

So, it now looks that a range of demos and causes will be represented in London on Sunday 9th, the weekend before the “meaningful vote” in May’s EU leaving deal.

It looks like this time there may be large forces on several sides unlike previously, when the right have mobilised well the left have not and vice versa.

This time SYL, UKIP and the far right are mobilising on a Sunday, so not as many of their football crews will be otherwise occupied.
On the other side there are various discussions about an anti fascist mobilisation, with something of a split between those who want to take on the whole anti-Brexit message of the right, and others seeking to organise both Brexit and Remain elements around a purely anti fascist unity.

This might lead to an anti Brexit mobilisation and a specific anti fascist mobilisation.

Could get heated.

Owen Jones take: The far right will try to exploit any Brexit outcome. We can’t let it happen | Owen Jones

 

Novara article from Callum Cant and Benjamin Walters that is causing some controversy:
Leave or Remain, We All Hate Tommy | Novara Media

 

AFN on 9th December:
Unite to stop Tommy Robinson on December 9th
London Antifascists:

 

What if at the Gilets Jaunes protest, all the left groups were there mainly protesting about there being a few well know dodgy fascists there and focusing on that above everything else.

As far as Im aware this is a leave-backing march backed by Robinson, UKIP etc. But not actually organised by them. If no one's focusing on the politics of the actual event, then it's these groups who will seize the initiative, whether they get a kicking or not.

 

Nick Ryan of Hope Not Hate on the background to the Sunday demo, in the Graun....

In the febrile atmosphere of Brexit, the far right is waiting to pounce | Nick Ryan

 

The wider left* seem to be putting all its effort into marches like these and the Trump events, Universal Credit is decimating communities more than creeps like Robinson, where are the national protests against UC, rising homelessness, etc? If they did more of the former, the latter would not be as viable to people who may feel abandoned, left behind(so sad to see ex miners supporting TR, the Tories , etc.)

*and of course much of it with the resources of the rape apologists.

 

I’m heading there. No idea what to do when I get there, i’m Not affiliated to any organisation. Just feels like the more bodies the better

 

Any Urbans heading there? If so any chance of an invite to join you, other wise i’ll be walking about like a lost child

Take pity

 

I'm going to try and head down, (hangover dependant). Will probably be on my own as well so if there is an urb contingent then I'd be up for tagging along. I'm definitely not a copper. I've got a badge and everything.

 

Yep not a copper either

Happy to link up so I don’t feel totally like a spare prick at a wedding

Landing in Waterloo 1030

I don’t own any badges

 

I'll bring you one.

 

This demo is a practise run for what we can expect from a Farage free UKIP . SYL , even though he is not a member, has said that he wants to turn UKIP into a 'popular revolutionist ' party. At the recent UKIP planning meeting the most significant player wasn't Danny Tommo , a disposable thug, who got all the attention but the rep from The Middle East Forum who have the dosh and will speak at the rally.
UKIP need a two track approach using SYL's international standing to consolidate further funding and to also consolidate their support on the right . Previously the DFLA have been at arms length , there's an opportunity to bring them closer. The breakaway For Britain group is ripe for recruiting from if the new UKIP /SYL alliance can demonstrate a show of force.
I don't think any of these groups are Nazis but they are rapidly blurring the lines between alt right/ populism and fascism. I suspect that their road to success isn't going to be linear but they aren't going to go away with both opposition and a political alternative .

 

So worth attending ?

 

Worth opposing. Going to be a long drawn out war.

 

Pic in Guardian would suggest otherwise:

 

I don't get off work until 1430, can be at Waterloo around 1545... is it worth it?

 

In the choo choo

Slightly hungover

 

Just surfaced, contemplating my movements. Will drop you a pm if I get my shit together.

 

Here too if you find a meeting point

 

I’m on my way in.

 

Am at the apple store. In the March. Stop start.

 

I couldn't make it (work ), but a mate I march with is going. Glad the weather turned out better than this morning. Large crowd?

 

Seems to be. I’d say the length of regent street but it’s hard to tell.

 

But only half of it. The other half is open to traffic.

 

Old bill are all kitted out ready for a ruck at the drop of a hat. This ain’t no Waitrose march.

Quite a few black hoodies around me.

 

Anti fascist action attracting plenty of police attention.

 

I appear to be at the front of the March.

Everyone follow me!