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Never liked their weird tasting 'bread' and gigantic portions. Pumpernickles used to beat them hands down but I think they were county wide only #sarnienostalgia
 
Azodicarbonamide. Oooooh, a scaaaaaaaary-sounding chemiKILL!

No really, is there any actual reason to believe that it's harmful in the amounts used in food? Has the dihydrogen monoxide hoax taught us NOTHING?
So why is it banned to eat by the EU?
Never mind can eat it again on New Year's Day
 
I don't know. I wouldn't assume that just because the EU bans it, that automatically means it is dangerous. That would be mistaking legislation for science.
Some science, yesterday


 
Some science, yesterday


A statement from an advocacy group isn't science. They don't even mention or link to any relevant studies. They don't say anything remotely quantifiable, such as a direct comparison of the cancer risks between consuming foods with naturally-occurring carcinogens (they are everywhere), and the risk of foods containing biurea (which is what the added azodicarbonamide breaks down into upon baking).

In fact, instead of linking to any science, they link to a blog by some unqualified lifestylist who thinks that they know something about nutrition and food safety.
 
A statement from an advocacy group isn't science. They don't even mention or link to any relevant studies. They don't say anything remotely quantifiable, such as a direct comparison of the cancer risks between consuming foods with naturally-occurring carcinogens (they are everywhere), and the risk of foods containing biurea (which is what the added azodicarbonamide breaks down into upon baking).

In fact, instead of linking to any science, they link to a blog by some unqualified lifestylist who thinks that they know something about nutrition and food safety.
The International Agency for Research on Cancer considers it a possible human carcinogen and that's why the EU banned it. As I say, don't fret, it'll be back on the menu next year.

You may be aware one in two people in the UK is due to get cancer... It's crap like this everywhere you turn that plays such a big part in all that suffering

 
The International Agency for Research on Cancer considers it a possible human carcinogen and that's why the EU banned it. As I say, don't fret, it'll be back on the menu next year.

If the EU wants to be consistent, then they should ban damn every other substance listed on the "possible carcinogen" list. Which includes such things as extracts of gingko biloba and aloe vera, the kind of "natural" substances that lifetylists are so fond of. As well as other naturally-occurring substances like caffeic acid, found in coffee but also found in herbs such as thyme and sage.

You may be aware one in two people in the UK is due to get cancer... It's crap like this everywhere you turn that plays such a big part in all that suffering

No, it is not. As the BBC article you linked indicates, a significant difference can be made by lifestyle changes, which would have nothing to do with banning weird-sounding chemicals that have been placed on some list which states that evidence for carcinogenicity is "limited" (whatever that means).
 
I have never stepped foot in one because of the horrible smell.
The only one I used to regularly walk past hasn't smelled like death for a couple of years - either they've sorted out their air filtration system from the kitchen, or I've had covid for the last two years.

I've tried them a good few years ago - not offensive but the bread is shit.
 


The bread’s sugar content – five times the qualifying limit under the act – means that it falls outside of the legal definition of a staple food. The ruling included white and wholegrain bread. The definition serves to differentiate bread from other baked goods.

“The argument depends on the acceptance of the prior contention that the Subway heated sandwich contains ‘bread’ as defined, and therefore can be said to be food for the purposes of the Second Schedule rather than confectionary. Since that argument has been rejected, this subsidiary argument must fail,” the court ruled. The appeal was dismissed.

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The ruling is not the first slice of controversy for the brand. In 2014, Subway decided to start removing the flour whitening agent azodicarbonamide from its baked goods after a petition circulated online. The ingredient is commonly used in the manufacture of yoga mats and carpet underlay and has been banned by the European Union and Australia from use in food products. yum

<got to be carcinogenic hasnt it?

if they make subway in Ireland use batch bread id consider going in more often :)
 
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