"Subsidised" council housing?

[_angel_]

Its ovious the problem is far too much pressure on social housing.

The obvious solution is to build more social housing as a matter of urgency.

But no - the cheaper and nastier thing to do is to further restrict peoples eligibility for social housing and removing security of tenure.

And U75s fuckwit fraterntiy obviously support option 2.

And many many people do some blagging to get a counci house, becasue most people will do whatever it takes to get somewhere to live - after all their still poor and in need of housing.

It's a pity they can't compulsory purchase the empty flats in leeds city centres/ turn some of the hotel rooms and empty offices into council places.

Of course it will not happen they will have to stay empty while people are homeless/ overcrowded on a friends sofa etc.

 

[Kaka Tim]

It's a pity they can't compulsory purchase the empty flats in leeds city centres/ turn some of the hotel rooms and empty offices into council places.

Of course it will not happen they will have to stay empty while people are homeless/ overcrowded on a friends sofa etc.

Indeed - I can look out of my window and see three empty apratment blocks, in addition to dozens of perfectly good council flats which have been boarded up for 18 months awaiting demolition as part of the leeds 'regeneration' (i.e yuppification) programme.

 

[Dan U]

It's a pity they can't compulsory purchase the empty flats in leeds city centres/ turn some of the hotel rooms and empty offices into council places.

Of course it will not happen they will have to stay empty while people are homeless/ overcrowded on a friends sofa etc.

I live in Croydon and there is a boom of advertising around for new flats really pushing the shared ownership/key worker options.

it is my guess that the developers had lots of schemes coming on line when everything went tits and are rapidly turning more of the schemes over to shared ownership to get shot of them - considering entire blocks seem to be shared as opposed to the notional percentage planning requires.

not the same as proper council housing of course but it could help some people out. it's probably the only way i could afford to buy something in south london tbh as a single person.

 

[marty21]

I live in Croydon and there is a boom of advertising around for new flats really pushing the shared ownership/key worker options.

it is my guess that the developers had lots of schemes coming on line when everything went tits and are rapidly turning more of the schemes over to shared ownership to get shot of them - considering entire blocks seem to be shared as opposed to the notional percentage planning requires.

not the same as proper council housing of course but it could help some people out. it's probably the only way i could afford to buy something in south london tbh as a single person.

that is possible, usually london schemes have about 25% social housing, which includes key worker, shared ownership, shared equity and rented, boris was against this, ken was for it, now the recession has hit, the percentage may indeed increase.

mind you, housing associations borrow money as well, and they are having difficulties borrowing from the banks as well at the mo

 

[audiotech]

According to a survey by the Local Government Association nearly 1.6 million households are on council waiting lists – about four million people. This is expected to rise to five million by 2010.

source

More on the government’s latest bizarre solution to the housing crisis here.

 

[Dan U]

that is possible, usually london schemes have about 25% social housing, which includes key worker, shared ownership, shared equity and rented, boris was against this, ken was for it, now the recession has hit, the percentage may indeed increase.

mind you, housing associations borrow money as well, and they are having difficulties borrowing from the banks as well at the mo

these are a lot more than 25% - unless they an offset for another development.

i've noticed on the rare times i pick up one of those free evening papers that the property bits are a lot fuller of part ownership adverts as well.

might be just old schemes coming online of course.

re HA's - i've been getting sob stories from various RSL's and providers on our supported housing schemes re increases etc. i've heard about two big HA's finances being right in the shit as well. which ties in with what one of our providers who is part of it has been saying to me.

 

[marty21]

these are a lot more than 25% - unless they an offset for another development.

i've noticed on the rare times i pick up one of those free evening papers that the property bits are a lot fuller of part ownership adverts as well.

might be just old schemes coming online of course.

re HA's - i've been getting sob stories from various RSL's and providers on our supported housing schemes re increases etc. i've heard about two big HA's finances being right in the shit as well. which ties in with what one of our providers who is part of it has been saying to me.

i was agreeing with you, i 'd have thought the housing association had to take over the private stuff

there is merger frenzy still going on amongst housing associations, my last big employer merged a couple of years ago and i hear on the grapevine that they are planning another one - the government wants bigger housing associations , so the G15 group of housing associations are being encouraged to swallow up smaller ones

 

[belboid]

that is possible, usually london schemes have about 25% social housing, which includes key worker, shared ownership, shared equity and rented, boris was against this, ken was for it, now the recession has hit, the percentage may indeed increase.

the recession is surely likely to make for even less 'social' housing, not more. the private companies building the houses still require a 'healthy' profit, and dont wont come by building hoouses that will be sold for less. thats if they build them at all. round my way, all of the rebuilding schemes (with a social component of between 12 & 20%) have been put on indefinite hold.

 

[marty21]

the recession is surely likely to make for even less 'social' housing, not more. the private companies building the houses still require a 'healthy' profit, and dont wont come by building hoouses that will be sold for less. thats if they build them at all. round my way, all of the rebuilding schemes (with a social component of between 12 & 20%) have been put on indefinite hold.

that's possible, most of the housing association developments that i was involved in had a lead-in time of several years from funding to completion, those in then pipeline might get put on hold, but if they are close to completion, I'd say that they will get completed. I was involved in several in hackney, around 250 units of social housing being completed by the end of this year, I've left there now, but I doubt they will be put on hold so close to completion

 

[brasicritique]

Its not just that, Nu-Labor also idolise the neo-liberal US where workers are forced to trek across the country to gain work.

yes i know this idea is also at the heart of the EU fordism is triuphant

 

[marty21]

http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/story.aspx?storycode= 6501832

margaret beckett claims that proposed changes to tenancy are pure speculation...

typical tactic really, someone suggests something, people get pissed off, then they claim not to have suggested it in the first place, unless it's something that people agree with

 

[littlebabyjesus]

http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/story.aspx?storycode= 6501832

margaret beckett claims that proposed changes to tenancy are pure speculation...

typical tactic really, someone suggests something, people get pissed off, then they claim not to have suggested it in the first place, unless it's something that people agree with

I think the official phrase is: 'We would like to start a debate...'