although I am anti-gun myself the sad reality is that there are many odd american who own numerous firearms...8ball said:Tase all 'odd' people on site before they can pull a gun out, I say!!!
Student Tasered at campus forum for John Kerry
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taffboy gwyrdd
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I am sick of these punks challenging our masters. Surely, torture is too good for them. Heil to the police and the great United States.
It is high time we tortured opponents of the secret societies who know what is best for us. Please god the menace of free speech will soon be a distant memory. I cant wait till there are more incidents like that in the UK. That'll teach untermenchen scum to say naughty things about our Dear Leaders.
It is high time we tortured opponents of the secret societies who know what is best for us. Please god the menace of free speech will soon be a distant memory. I cant wait till there are more incidents like that in the UK. That'll teach untermenchen scum to say naughty things about our Dear Leaders.
taffboy gwyrdd
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Detroit City said:
The fact there were quite a few cops sat on him would have been an obstacle to say the least. If he was going to pull a gun he had much more opportunity in the lead up and didnt do so. Anyone anytime could conceivably pull a gun in the US, so I guess the cops should be able to torture anyone anytime, especially people as dangerous as this guy with his anti-establishment notions.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
Yikes! That's bad. 
To be fair to the guy, they only showed the long end of a diatribe cursing Kerry for conceding in 2004 when everyone knew there was still a chance of winning.
To be fair to Kerry, he did start answering the question after the guy got tased.
To be fair to the guy, they only showed the long end of a diatribe cursing Kerry for conceding in 2004 when everyone knew there was still a chance of winning.
To be fair to Kerry, he did start answering the question after the guy got tased.
Johnny Canuck3
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Somebody cut his mike; it looks like he was rambling, making a speech. Should they have? I don't know.
Then, they want him to leave. He fights.
As was said back at the time of the library tasering, there's a time and a place to question police actions: the best time and place is at a hearing, with your lawyer beside you.
The worst time and place is during the event. If you resist being escorted out etc, the cops will escalate the violence until you do whatever it was they asked you to do. They won't change their minds because you start yelling and waving your arms.
Could have been worse, though. It could have been those guys in the black suits doing the intervening.
Donna Ferentes
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Johnny Canuck3
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Donna Ferentes said:
Tasering is one thing: soldiers firing live rounds into a crowd is another.
Donna Ferentes
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You think?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
DrRingDing said:
Quite a lot as it happens.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Bush, Kerry. Kerry, Bush.
Different wings of the same beast. Good cop, bad cop.
"Hey, they've had enough of us being REALLY nasty. Send in the good cop, that should keep the proles happy for a while."
Different wings of the same beast. Good cop, bad cop.
"Hey, they've had enough of us being REALLY nasty. Send in the good cop, that should keep the proles happy for a while."
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
chymaera said:
Have they? I have read somewhere that the police are still quite handy with their truncheons on anti-war demos.
nino_savatte
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chymaera said:
Is it? It's still brutality and it serves as a reminder that the US state doesn't take kindly to certain forms of dissent.
nino_savatte
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chymaera said:
No shit.
TAE said:
Yeah the coppers started grabbing him earlier when he was talking about the destruction of black votes, and the fact that Kerry had actually won. This after Kerry had asked him for his question!
edition.cnn.com/2007/US/09/18/student.tasered.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Clearly they felt the student was asking questions that might embarrass John Kerry and therefore felt he had to be grabbed for being out of order. He shrugged them off that time but they got a bit rough thereafter when he legitimately raised the point about Bush and Kerry's secretive brotherhood.
The fact of Bush and Kerry’s membership to Skull and Bones is not fictional. They where questioned on TV about in the run up to the election. I'm not conspiracy theorising here, I'm just saying its not fiction, and the case of Bush and Kerry both members a legitimate subject for questioning in the context.
News Investigation of it
I think the guys questioning was good. - Why didn’t you persue it when it became clear you had defeated Bush? Tell us about your secretive alliance with George Bush in the Skull and Bones society/
Editor laugh it off all you want but the guy was asking good questions after being invited to speak. The fact that Kerry and Bush are members of Skull and Bones is not a conspiracy theory. It is an uncomfortable fact.
editor said:
In fairness you did condemn it as ‘outrageous brutality’, and had not seen the above video at that point, but the way you resort to taking the piss out of conspiracy theorists at the most tenuous opportunity is in this case erroneous.
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Of course. Many coppers are aggressive, fired up authoritive bullies. It is a violent and stressful job however and personally I can sympathise. Despised by many, dealing all day with scumbags, constant violent confrontation, one can undertand how they get this ‘I am not going to any shit’ fired up mentality.
If they ask you for something (e.g. name, what you are doing) or tell you do something they will just escalate the situation until you comply or they slap the cuffs on you. I feel sorry for this guy, he hadn’t done anything wrong, his struggling when the coppers got handy with him was the natural thing to do and was only going to lead to him getting flattened.
It looked to me like they cut his mike and then straight away started to drag him away. He says ‘thankyou for cutting my mike’ looks like he is finished or about to leave and is then dragged away .Rather than – they cut his mike, he then carries on angrily, they try to drag him away, he goes mad and got himself tazered.
The thing which is so shocking about this and the library incident is that the coppers had immobilized the guys, could have easily handcuffed them, but they decided to tazer them for whatever reason.
In the case of the library guy they repeatedly tazered him because he wouldn’t stand up and then probably couldn’t stand up of his own accord. This is a shocking over use of force.
Given that these horrible weapons where originally to be used on violent people, or if somebody had a weapon, the fact that they are being used in such ways is disturbing.
8ball
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EddyBlack said:
It's not shocking - it's the third clip on Urban this month where the police have tasered an already immobilised suspect.
I guess it might be 'shocking' if you hadn't seen the other two. Now it just looks like 'standard procedure'
I'm coming round to detective-boy's way of thinking . .
'Standard police procedure - nothing to see here. . . move along.'
Johnny Canuck3
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Donna Ferentes said:
You brought it up.
Donna Ferentes
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Well not really, Johnny, if you look (as you should have, but did not) at what I was responding to.
Johnny Canuck3
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TAE said:
Sure he had permission. At the outset, before he starts talking, there's no way to know that he's about to give a rambling speech, instead of asking a question.
it was more a manifesto than a speech
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