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Story about drowned child

Just read the BBC report. A tragedy indeed. But why on earth would anyone park a car on a slipway, never mind one with an unattended child in it?

She probably didn’t think. She was only popping into her work for a second as I understand it. It seems as if it was just a horrible, tragic accident. The poor woman will have to live with this for the rest of her life. So sad.
 
She probably didn’t think. She was only popping into her work for a second as I understand it. It seems as if it was just a horrible, tragic accident. The poor woman will have to live with this for the rest of her life. So sad.
For sure. Agree with all that, but as it's being reported it's absolutely staggering. I wouldn't wish to add to the woman's grief at the moment but fucking hell she's got some explaining to do. Every now and then we get threads on here absolutely destroying drivers in the summer who leave a dog in a hot car whilst they go into a shop for a few minutes. Posters here want to rip those drivers to pieces for dog neglect but this woman seems to have left a child in a car on a slope designed to drop things into the river and nobody wants to question it? :confused:
 
On the face of it it does seem a very careless thing to do. Saying that though the full facts are clearly not known yet so who really knows? On a daily basis you see people doing careless things and 99.9% of the time nothing comes of it. Its a terrible tragedy.
 
A very similar thing happened in Shepperton a few years ago, down Dockett Eddy lane, a car parked in a house driveway with a small child strapped in to the back, it rolled backwards across the road and in to the Thames, child drowned. IIRC it was a grandparent's house and a grandparent driving, could be wrong on that though.

Things do happen, half a mo's inattention and the world can change forever. It's easy to judge after the event, but those who fret about these things are seen as too protective.

Awful situation for the woman involved here.
 
For sure. Agree with all that, but as it's being reported it's absolutely staggering. I wouldn't wish to add to the woman's grief at the moment but fucking hell she's got some explaining to do. Every now and then we get threads on here absolutely destroying drivers in the summer who leave a dog in a hot car whilst they go into a shop for a few minutes. Posters here want to rip those drivers to pieces for dog neglect but this woman seems to have left a child in a car on a slope designed to drop things into the river and nobody wants to question it? :confused:

Too bloody soon, unless you want to hit up the families FB page and get all worked up over there!?

Girl looked like a right little diamond. Liked being called Rar Rar - that's what I used to call my big sister :(.
 
For sure. Agree with all that, but as it's being reported it's absolutely staggering. I wouldn't wish to add to the woman's grief at the moment but fucking hell she's got some explaining to do. Every now and then we get threads on here absolutely destroying drivers in the summer who leave a dog in a hot car whilst they go into a shop for a few minutes. Posters here want to rip those drivers to pieces for dog neglect but this woman seems to have left a child in a car on a slope designed to drop things into the river and nobody wants to question it? :confused:
Not sure I even feel comfortable owning this, but I checked out the possible location on Street View and it's not a particularly blatant slope...certainly not what the word "slipway" might conjure up...
 
There's a picture with the BBC story - looks like a daft place to park but it's right outside their family business so they probably parked there so many times they forgot about the danger, so much so that when the car was gone they assumed it was stolen.

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Had some really good times on the Teifi, this is a really gutting story. So many what ifs. Poor mum.
 
There's a picture with the BBC story - looks like a daft place to park but it's right outside their family business so they probably parked there so many times they forgot about the danger, so much so that when the car was gone they assumed it was stolen.

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Aye, it looks like there's even a gentle slope up to the building as well. You could easily see that small van in background rolling down the slip way if the hand brake wasn't on or failed.
 
All three of my children have been able to undo seatbelts of various types since they were about 2 years old - kids undo seatbelts, they fiddle, sometimes you don't really yank the handbrake back...

I rather doubt I'm the only person in the world who has visited a friend for a 30 second errand, left a sleeping child in the kiddy seat, had a gossip and returned 5 minutes later to discover said sleeping child sat in the driver's seat arsing about with the radio, lights and indicators.

It is, sadly, all to easy a thing to happen.
 
All three of my children have been able to undo seatbelts of various types since they were about 2 years old - kids undo seatbelts, they fiddle, sometimes you don't really yank the handbrake back...

I rather doubt I'm the only person in the world who has visited a friend for a 30 second errand, left a sleeping child in the kiddy seat, had a gossip and returned 5 minutes later to discover said sleeping child sat in the driver's seat arsing about with the radio, lights and indicators.

It is, sadly, all to easy a thing to happen.

Yes but I very much doubt they could get the handbrake off, its designed that way for a reason and this is assuming its not an electric parking brake.
 
Yes but I very much doubt they could get the handbrake off, its designed that way for a reason and this is assuming its not an electric parking brake.
A good knock on the button (like a kid booting it) particularly if it's not properly applied, could do it. Mercedes and Saab changed their handbrake designs to prevent it happening and whilst they're quirky and a bit annoying there's no way they can be accidentally released.
 
Yes but I very much doubt they could get the handbrake off, its designed that way for a reason and this is assuming its not an electric parking brake.
Apparently it was an EPB. Should be next to impossible for a small child to switch off but there have been instances of malfunction (in VWs that I know of, I have no idea about Minis).
 
There's a picture with the BBC story - looks like a daft place to park but it's right outside their family business so they probably parked there so many times they forgot about the danger, so much so that when the car was gone they assumed it was stolen.

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Awful, awful story. Found it difficult to imagine how the first emergency responders did not carry out a thorough search of the immediate area where vehicle was last seen. I notice someone further up-thread pointed out that this is a fast-flowing stretch of the river; perhaps this explains it.
 
Massive tragedy, must be awful for mom and dad. I wish the SM warriors would mind their own business in these cases.
Having driven a few old cars with pretty useless parking brakes in hilly areas, it is now second nature for me to park cars "in gear" - Don't have kids, only dogs.
Dogs can be almost as bad as small kids in cars - a recent hire car with EPB the dog managed to take the brake off and in another car he managed to lock himself in (Button on central console).
 
Apparently it was an EPB. Should be next to impossible for a small child to switch off but there have been instances of malfunction (in VWs that I know of, I have no idea about Minis).

Massive tragedy, must be awful for mom and dad. I wish the SM warriors would mind their own business in these cases.
Having driven a few old cars with pretty useless parking brakes in hilly areas, it is now second nature for me to park cars "in gear" - Don't have kids, only dogs.
Dogs can be almost as bad as small kids in cars - a recent hire car with EPB the dog managed to take the brake off and in another car he managed to lock himself in (Button on central console).

The EPB thing is interesting. I thought (I don't know for sure) that an EPB automatically applies itself if you switch the engine off. Also if you have an EPB its highly likely there will be a key less ignition so you'd have to leave the key in the car and the engine running for anything like to occur. I do agree though that EPB's are a lot easier to release then a hand brake and could easily be done by a child by accident supposing the engine was running.

I find I forget to apply the EPB much more often then I did when I had a handbrake, it was just second nature before now I have to remember.
 
The EPB thing is interesting. I thought (I don't know for sure) that an EPB automatically applies itself if you switch the engine off. Also if you have an EPB its highly likely there will be a key less ignition so you'd have to leave the key in the car and the engine running for anything like to occur. I do agree though that EPB's are a lot easier to release then a hand brake and could easily be done by a child by accident supposing the engine was running.

I find I forget to apply the EPB much more often then I did when I had a handbrake, it was just second nature before now I have to remember.
Not sure about others but mine does not apply itself on engine-off; I have to press the button manually. It can only be released via the button (engine on or off) with my foot firmly on the brake. It will release automatically with the engine running if the car is in gear and when the clutch is released, and then only if my seat belt is on.

So on mine it's far from easy to accidentally release the brake... but easy to not apply it and leave the car.
 
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