Stop oppressing gays in Sochi!

[danny la rouge]

Flagstaff Arizona.

I just wanted to say Flagstaff Arizona. I once met someone from there.

I heard a story about Flagstaff once; as a matter of fact, I've heard a lot of stories in my time. They say a scene from Casablanca was filmed in the Hotel Monte Vista, Flagstaff.

I'm saying this because it's true

 

[danny la rouge]

I am an open homosexual.

Who are you really, and what were you before? What did you do and what did you think?

 

[danny la rouge]

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Flagstaff Arizona.

I just wanted to say Flagstaff Arizona. I once met someone from there.

I haven't been to Flagstaff, but I have been to Phoenix Arizona, which is very flat and hot.

I have also been to Winslow Arizona where I did in fact stand on a corner probably at some point, but did not run down the road trying to loosen my load. That was the other guy.

There's an amazing hotel in Winslow called La Posada - http://www.laposada.org - which I can very much recommend.

 

[J Ed]

La Posada Posadista!

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I haven't been to Flagstaff, but I have been to Phoenix Arizona, which is very flat and hot.

I have also been to Winslow Arizona where I did in fact stand on a corner probably at some point, but did not run down the road trying to loosen my load. That was the other guy.

There's an amazing hotel in Winslow called La Posada - http://www.laposada.org - which I can very much recommend.

The weirdest event that I've ever been to was just outside Phoenix. I went to a annual meet for archers and fencers. At night the parties included fire eating, belly dancing, drumming, etc. One party featured about 5 kegs, a candelabra, lit candles, and a foil. You were supposed to put out the candles with the foil after having numerous samples from the kegs. They had to airlift a few people out for medical attention, but it wasn't from that particular party.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

One party featured about 5 kegs, a candelabra, lit candles, and a foil. You were supposed to put out the candles with the foil after having numerous samples from the kegs.

Pfft, Inigo Montoya could have done that no problem.

 

[friendofdorothy]

Posted from an IP address is Singapore.
What do we think?

Lets ask Clare balding when she's back - I'd like to hear how she's finding it there.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

What are you on about? I thought you said someone was going to be getting pissed?

You sound a little bit pissed.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I heard a story about Flagstaff once; as a matter of fact, I've heard a lot of stories in my time. They say a scene from Casablanca was filmed in the Hotel Monte Vista, Flagstaff.

I'm saying this because it's true

I've been to Flagstaff. It was more boring than I expected.

 

[danny la rouge]

I've been to Flagstaff. It was more boring than I expected.

I've never been to me.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I've never been to me.

This particular deepness is impenetrable by me.

 

[danny la rouge]

This particular deepness is impenetrable by me.

I've never understood it either. (I thought we were doing songs about going places. Maybe I should be leaving on a jet plane...).

 

[Remus Harbank]

There is something really weird going on with instrumentalising us gays for anti-Russian propaganda (see my favourite blogger fagburn for this). Arizona has strong anti gay laws and the original poster is a troll, that much is clear.

 

[Idris2002]

Who are you really, and what were you before? What did you do and what did you think?

I heard a lot of stories in my time. They went along with the sound of a tinny piano playing in the parlour. They all started the same way, too - 'mister, I knew a man once, when I was a kid. . .'

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

The map isn't completely accurate. A lot of cities have separate ordinances that ban discrimination in housing and employment so it isn't a solid block. Omaha has one such, and the place I live is working on one. That'll cover nearly half the population of the state. I know that's happening in other states too.

 

[8ball]

The map isn't completely accurate. A lot of cities have separate ordinances that ban discrimination in housing and employment so it isn't a solid block. Omaha has one such, and the place I live is working on one. That'll cover nearly half the population of the state. I know that's happening in other states too.

Where the map talks about being sacked for being gay - what jobs would that be talking about?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Where the map talks about being sacked for being gay - what jobs would that be talking about?

Nearly any business where the owner cared one way or the other. Most of the US has "at will" employment. They can fire you for any reason or none.

(I should also add that my state government is paying benefits for married same sex couples that were legally married elsewhere. You just can't get married here ... yet.)

 

[8ball]

Nearly any business where the owner cared one way or the other. Most of the US has "at will" employment. They can fire you for any reason or none.

Does that still include being black? Obviously they should have known a person was black before hiring them, but the boss could turn racist overnight...

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Does that still include being black? Obviously they should have known a person was black before hiring them, but the boss could turn racist overnight...

No, there's a federal employment discrimination law that prevents that. There's a list of classes in the law that include race, national origin, religion, and sex that you can't fire someone for. Sexual orientation isn't on the list so its fair game.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Does that still include being black? Obviously they should have known a person was black before hiring them, but the boss could turn racist overnight...

No, but sexual orientation isn't protected by federal legislation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment#Statutory_exceptions

 

[ViolentPanda]

Pfft, Inigo Montoya could have done that no problem.

But to be fair, he'd then kill you for murdering his father.

 

[8ball]

No, there's a federal employment discrimination law that prevents that. There's a list of classes in the law that include race, national origin, religion, and sex that you can't fire someone for. Sexual orientation isn't on the list so its fair game.

If it only works in terms of being able to sack whoever you like except in a few particular instances, then it's just a matter of making up another reason.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

If it only works in terms of being able to sack whoever you like except in a few particular instances, then it's just a matter of making up another reason.

Yep. It is.

(That's why you document anything that your employer says or does that reflects on your employment.)

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

the original poster is a troll, that much is clear.

The people who lie the most are nearly always the clumsiest at it, and they're easier to fool with lies than most people, too. You'd think they'd be on the look-out for lies, but they seem to be the very ones that will believe almost anything at all.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

They can fire you for any reason or none.

If it's without cause, do they have to give notice or pay in lieu of notice?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

If it's without cause, do they have to give notice or pay in lieu of notice?

Nope.

 

[8ball]

At our US office sometimes people just ...vanish.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

At our US office sometimes people just ...vanish.

Most of the time the employer won't comment on the reason to anyone other than the person they fired. They don't want a lawsuit. If you check references for that person, they'll only confirm when they were employed and if they'd hire them back. Nothing more.

 

[8ball]

Most of the time the employer won't comment on the reason to anyone other than the person they fired. They don't want a lawsuit. If you check references for that person, they'll only confirm when they were employed and if they'd hire them back. Nothing more.

Sometimes we get "X has left the company", and sometimes "We do not employ anyone by the name of X".

I'm always waiting for an email saying "X never existed".