The Black Hand
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DOh! The announcement of the demo means the filth are tooling up - you know nothing.
Stop BNP red white and Blue festival
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DOh! The announcement of the demo means the filth are tooling up - you know nothing.
The Black Hand
Unclean
Agreed.
The British police are the best in the world, and I am sure the cells will be overflowing if you decide to be naughty middle class boys.
If your really lucky, maybe your get to share a cell with a fascist.
After all the bragging and puffing your chests out(not to mention the free publicity given to the BNP).
If the BNP thingy is not stopped, then your going to look a complete bunch of knobs.
My money is on the police, after all the free intelligence supplied to them by anti fascists.
Policing a rural area is much easier than inner cities.
The way to beat the BNP is through the ballot box. Not serving time, which some anti fascists may be doing.
I suspect all this threat of violence is a bluff, otherwise why have the police been given such warning?
Threats of violence, can carry lengthy jail terms, even if it is a bluff.
ask those who know me, and take a look at some of them i wonder how there faces ended up mashed up? middle class indeed do you you know what your talking about you sound like one of them, if you are going lets meet, my boots would like to do walking see you there wanker..
Well maybe your working class, I presume most of the anti fascists are middle class.
My experience of the far left was from uni, and those in the Labour party, during the dark days of Tory rule, when they seemed determined to destroy the party.
Follow the path you have chosen, and see where it gets you.
My experience of the far left was from uni, and those in the Labour party, during the dark days of Tory rule, when they seemed determined to destroy the party.
Follow the path you have chosen, and see where it gets you.
so you do not want to meet, aged 43 and been at this from the age of 14, and still we are dealing with people like you, as if we did not have enough to deal with?
october_lost
It's not hip any more...
So no recent experience then
lights.out.london
Black Flag
"...I presume...".
You presume wrong.
...and what is more heinious? A middle-class "Guardian reader"-type, actively commited to the end of fascist politics and parties/groups in this country, or a committed fascist activist hiding behind the 'respectable' facade of the BNP?
My enemies' enemy....
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
not strictly true. the Sun now has a Polish edition and the BNP are actively courting the Polish vote. the latter being a very dangerous development as anyone with any knowledge of the eastern european far right will understand.
Most Poles are not fascist sympathisers and never have been, while the kind of Poles who come to work here are, by and large, the ones least likely to fall for the BNP's unworkable crap.
In any case, the Polish edition of the Sun is not advising anybody to vote for the BNP; in fact it gives out the same mixed messages of the English edition: insincere anti-asylum sentiment etc, while elsewhere praising the contributions of immigrants to British society and, when the subject comes up, condemning the BNP.
The Black Hand
Unclean
Didn't know you spoke and read Polish?
Actually, I did learn a fair bit when I was visiting the country on a fairly regular basis about fifteen years ago, although most of it has fallen into disrepair.
I take your point though-the devious Murdoch empire may well be putting out a 'Nazi' edition of the Sun in Polish, especially for Poles working here. It's utterly concerning.
The Black Hand
Unclean
Answer it and leave and the bullshite pls.
I did answer it. (See above.) I even acknowledged your implied point that there might be a 'Nazi' edition of the Sun aimed at historically fascistic Poles, with the aim of getting them to vote BNP. Non-Poles may not know about this due to their inability to read Polish.
The Black Hand
Unclean
Answer it and leave out the bullshite.
lights.out.london
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chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
yes. i know that on both counts.
however the BNP are actively courting the Polish vote. fact. have a look at their site.
yes. i know that on both counts.
however the BNP are actively courting the Polish vote. fact. have a look at their site.
I never denied they were; I said they're unlikely to make significant inroads into it.
If you know the Sun isn't exactly calling for a BNP vote why make connections between the two issues in a single post?
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
There is an alternative event on the Saturday in Derby for anyone in the area. Full details are on Facebook here http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=29179625571&ref=ts but for those of you not on facebook it runs from noon until midnight, with a BBQ and DJs during the day and the main event in the evening from 7-11 ish
Local producer Baby J (who has worked with Mark Ronson and Amy Winehouse) is promoting this and Asher D from So Solid Crew is playing.
It's at the West End Community Centre on Mackworth Road in Derby, if you are Sat-Navving it's DE22 3BL
Admission is Free.............
(ok'd with site Editor)
Local producer Baby J (who has worked with Mark Ronson and Amy Winehouse) is promoting this and Asher D from So Solid Crew is playing.
It's at the West End Community Centre on Mackworth Road in Derby, if you are Sat-Navving it's DE22 3BL
Admission is Free.............
(ok'd with site Editor)
october_lost
It's not hip any more...
Even before I looked at the site I knew it would be the splitters doing theyre best to capitalise using PR rather than engaging in political activity, and low and behold I was right
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
Even before I looked at the site I knew it would be the splitters doing theyre best to capitalise using PR rather than engaging in political activity, and low and behold I was right
Eh?
I know I'm a bit thick but can you explain to me what you me, please
EDIT did you misunderstand me? This is an alternative event to the Red White and Blue festival, not an alternative to any action at the site, which we strongly support.
Our target audience is anyone and everyone, but we are particularly hoping to attract young people who wouldn't dream of going on a political march/rally...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think he means How alternative is it it's done by LMHR? They're an swp front, so one part of the argument.
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Oswaldtwistle
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OK I need to make it clear I'm not in the SWP (nor any other political party). I am a member of city-zen who are doing the daytime warm-up stuff (DJs and BBQ), but I need to make it clear I am speaking on a personal basis here.
As far as I know none of the City-zen team are members of SWP or any political party, although I couldn't vouch for that.
We are aware of the SWP angle, and I'm not their biggest fan, but I consider them a far lesser evil than the BNP, and me and the rest of City-zen team are happy to be involved in this.
As far as I know none of the City-zen team are members of SWP or any political party, although I couldn't vouch for that.
We are aware of the SWP angle, and I'm not their biggest fan, but I consider them a far lesser evil than the BNP, and me and the rest of City-zen team are happy to be involved in this.
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rogue_lettuce
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Surely if it's on the same date, in a different place, then one couldn't possibly go to the Red White and Blue festival to take action AND go to the Red Black and Green festival? In which case, surely it IS an alternative to any action at the site?
And presenting it as "an alternative event to" the BNP fest makes it sound like you're offering people two choices of how to express their White Nationalism
october_lost
It's not hip any more...
october_lost
It's not hip any more...
It wasn't a crack at you, if you follow the thread the SWP have basically decided to do their entirest to avoid getting onto a broad based campaign and this includes holdsing an alternative event. They have basically behaved in a very sectarian manner and its all too typical of them...
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october_lost
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