Starship Troopers-on now

[Balbi]

Yeah, they're supposed to chuck them through space somehow aren't they?

 

[London_Calling]

They can be redirected, I suppose - well, in the future they can, init.

Still reminds me of Saddam's military-industrial-scientific base that build all those kinds of WMD right under the UNSCOM inspector's noses.

 

[iROBOT]

Yeah thought it was funny how they called the enemy IRAQnids....

lol

 

[London_Calling]

I also once saw 30 seconds of 'GI Jane' and thought of the shower scene, there's so, so much really in Starship Troopers. It's almost like every American western cliche you've ever seen + 'Zulu'; 'aracnids Sir, fousands of em'.

 

[Mr Smin]

'the mobile infantry made me what i am today'

so - should i watch the sequel or is it a regrettable cash-in?

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

'the mobile infantry made me what i am today'

so - should i watch the sequel or is it a regrettable cash-in?

It's piss. It probably can't even be called a cash-in as I doubt it made any money at all.

 

[cliche guevara]

Starship Troopers is a fucking ridiculous film. It's awful, and that's what makes it so brilliant.

 

[Stigmata]

They sucked his brains out

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Did you ever read Moon is a harsh mistress? stranger in a strange land? Starship Troopers?

How about his essays, letters and and other non fiction ephemera?

Cause I did. And guess what? you've got a facist masquerading as an all american rugged individualist.

I read all of them before you were born. And guess what? You're dead wrong. He's a dyed in the wool libertarian.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Yes of course great art and culture is created in facist cultures, that cannot be denied.

Like what: Triumph of the Will? The architecture of Albert Speer?

 

[Dhimmi]

Dali is a good example.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Dali is a good example.

Dali moved to the US when WW2 started. After he moved back to spain, his work lacked the impact of the earlier pieces.

 

[DotCommunist]

I read all of them before you were born. And guess what? You're dead wrong. He's a dyed in the wool libertarian.

Don't give me the 'I'm older than you' shit, your advanced years do not confer automatic wisdom chum.

I've never read a series of essays so right wing from a science fiction author. I have a book up in the attic, Its a collection of Heinlens favorite short stories of his, intespersed with nasty little ranting essays. His piece on how we should all walk around naked at home was the absurd and his complete misanalysis of communism was the ridiculos. And damned if there wasn't much rugged individualist crap about avoiding all tax possible but donating anonymously to projects deemed worthy by your own all seeing eye

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Don't give me the 'I'm older than you' shit, your advanced years do not confer automatic wisdom chum.:

No, but they mean I've been thinking about these things longer than you have. They mean I've been exposed to more public discourse on the topic, more debate, etc.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

His piece on how we should all walk around naked at home was the absurd

But how is it fascist?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

his complete misanalysis of communism was the ridiculos. :

Misanalysing communism doesn't make him a fascist.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

And damned if there wasn't much rugged individualist crap about avoiding all tax possible but donating anonymously to projects deemed worthy by your own all seeing eye

How is that fascist?

 

[DotCommunist]

Like what: Triumph of the Will? The architecture of Albert Speer?

How about the SS dagger?

It's quite strikingly beautiful, no?

The SS black and silver trimmed uniform was also very good looking. Evil ften gets cool designs. Looking stylish doesn't lessen the evil

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

How about the SS dagger?

It's quite strikingly beautiful, no?

The SS black and silver trimmed uniform was also very good looking. Evil ften gets cool designs. Looking stylish doesn't lessen the evil

Hugo Boss designed the uniforms.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

The only thing uglier is Soviet architecture.

 

[mentalchik]

Have to say i never took ST to be anything other than a satire on totalitarianism etc........



read Stranger In A Strange Land many many years ago............might give it a re-read, my copy must be nearly 30 yrs old !

 

[DotCommunist]

But how is it fascist?

It's not, those attitudes are expressed in his fiction.

It is loony and indicative of views that veer towards extreme

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Have to say i never took ST to be anything other than a satire on totalitarianism etc........

It is a satire. You understand that because you're old enough [but not that old], that your thoughts didn't come prepackaged in a big can of PC.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It is loony and indicative of views that veer towards extreme

Extreme views = fascism?

You fail this course.


F

 

[DotCommunist]

Misanalysing communism doesn't make him a fascist.

It doesn't, those attitudes are expressed in his fiction.

It is loony and indicative of views that veer towards extreme

 

[mentalchik]

I should point out that i'm not a huge fan of this film............though i can be a sucker for sci-fi......






For some reason can't find SIASL in my bookcase got quite a bit of Heinlein too !

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It doesn't, those attitudes are expressed in his fiction.

It is loony and indicative of views that veer towards extreme

If you want to double post, so can I.

Extreme views = fascism?

You fail this course.


F

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I should point out that i'm not a huge fan of this film............though i can be a sucker for sci-fi......






For some reason can't find SIASL in my bookcase got quite a bit of Heinlein too !

Those bug battles are the ultimate of SF.

 

[DotCommunist]

Extreme views = fascism?

You fail this course.


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I'm not going to dig through moon is a harsh mistress and his letters and essays in order to provide you with examples of the innate facistic ideas of the man. He isn't satiring. He's deadly serious.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I'm not going to dig through moon is a harsh mistress and his letters and essays in order to provide you with examples of the innate facistic ideas of the man. He isn't satiring. He's deadly serious.

I recall his philosophy. You might want to reread it yourself, to disabuse yourself of the errors you made the first time through.