This thread is because I have caused the Netflix thread to be overrun with Star Trek chat. I'm both a long term Trekkie and a newbie, and wanted to discuss my new findings. Let me explain: I was a big fan of Star Trek (TOS and to some extent TAS) as a kid. When the films came out in the late 70s/80s, I lapped them up. I have TOS and the TOS films on DVD (and the TOS films also on VHS). But when TNG came onto the scene I refused to watch. I didn't want it to ruin the world I'd invested in. But last year, under peer pressure from my (all younger) siblings, I finally started watching TNG on Netflix. At first I thought it was terrible; all my fears had been confirmed. Season 1 was terrible and season 2 was mostly poor. But gradually the odd decent episode appears, and I become invested in some of the characters and their relationships. First of all Data, especially the episode Measure of a Man (though he was later over-used in "comedy stories") . Then the Borg episodes came along. They were great. I hated Q and all the Q stories. And I thought the last season had run out of steam. And some of what I had thought of as canon was trampled on a fair bit. And I have lots of notes about inconsistencies around the replicators. But I grudgingly accepted it as part of real Star Trek. Now I'm on DS9. I'm on season 1, and it's not grabbing me yet. It has a different feel. Not surprisingly: it's static for a start. The theme music reflects that (and is in fact terrible). And the story lines are more soap-like: there's more about interpersonal drama. This is an observation, not a criticism, except that it's not working for me yet because none of the characters have so far grabbed me. I find Dax bland. I don't like Dr Bashir's "acting". I'm not convinced by Sisco. And I think the Ferengi having centre stage is a big mistake (I thought they were a badly misjudged species even in TNG). I'm hoping that the middle seasons will win me over, like TNG did, but so far I'm struggling. I'm told it gets better, and people on here (B.I.G) suggest it's better than TNG eventually. So I'll stick with it. It was my intention to watch all the series(es) in order before starting on Discovery. But people are telling me Voyager is poor. That and Enterprise had escaped my consciousness until 2017, so it'll be no loss to me if the consensus is give them a miss. Anyway, this is a thread for general discussion, for shouting at me for my ignorance/opinions, or for recommendations and observations. I'd prefer not to read spoilers, but I accept that for everyone else these series(es) are decades old and I'll go with the flow on that. Make it so.