Stalin, Monster of the Ukraine
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dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
I went to the ukraine a couple of years ago .On exercise one of our missions was to capture a ruined village so I spent half an hour or so ona hillside shooting at a ruined church .Eventually got down into village had tea basically church tower some large dugouts for tanks (ex soviet training area) piles of rubble and mounds of earth all over the place . Asked the locals about the history of the place and told him about imber village ( locals kicked out of village in 1940s never allowed back ) This place gemans came in killed the jews
Russians came back killed everyone else as collabrators .In his words the defintion of collabrator was being alive .We felt pretty bad about exercising over
the site of murdered village . The ukrianian just shrugged too many places in his country to feel bad about them all .Not many laughs in ukrainian history
Russians came back killed everyone else as collabrators .In his words the defintion of collabrator was being alive .We felt pretty bad about exercising over
the site of murdered village . The ukrianian just shrugged too many places in his country to feel bad about them all .Not many laughs in ukrainian history
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Ryazan said:
Who, jaxe?
Bit harsh, isn't it?
(Only a little bit, mind!!
)
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Your bloke was right. The Nazis killed the Jews, but they also killed off many Ukrainians for the crimes of being Slavs and/or "reds", and then after the Nazis were pushed back out of Ukraine the Soviet troops from the likes of Siberia etc (The USSR's leaders were always quite careful to not have garrisons of "native" troops in the various states if they could help it) were used by the Soviets to liquidate Ukrainians for the "crime" of having been invaded (what your chap called "collaboration").dylanredefined said:I went to the ukraine a couple of years ago .On exercise one of our missions was to capture a ruined village so I spent half an hour or so ona hillside shooting at a ruined church .Eventually got down into village had tea basically church tower some large dugouts for tanks (ex soviet training area) piles of rubble and mounds of earth all over the place . Asked the locals about the history of the place and told him about imber village ( locals kicked out of village in 1940s never allowed back ) This place gemans came in killed the jews
Russians came back killed everyone else as collabrators .In his words the defintion of collabrator was being alive .We felt pretty bad about exercising over
the site of murdered village . The ukrianian just shrugged too many places in his country to feel bad about them all .Not many laughs in ukrainian history
I wouldn't feel bad about it, though. Just "one of those things".
That bit of turf has been over-run so many times it's no wonder the soil is so fertile. It's had more blood and bone added to it than most.
Johnny Canuck3
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Red Jezza said:what on EARTH makes you think I have ever read that rag?
what a dreadfully stupid post.
And isn't it so easy to get an asinine kneejerk reaction out of you, one disparaging NA reference and the pavlov's dog in you takes over.
ETA; johnny, everything you've posted - in all their reactionary, kneejerk glory - on this forum, puts you so very much more in the Daily Mail camp than me.
Or for that matter, any other regular poster, apart from pbman (who - as an illiterate - doesn't count). You ARE the DM target audience profile, made flesh and words.
So err, what does that say for you?
Read the post again regularly: I didn't call you a daily mail reader.
And the response came after your 'book learnin' comment. You choose the playground, and I'll play accordingly.
Johnny Canuck3
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Red Jezza said:
It's funny how you've got me stamped and paid without even meeting me.
Like I said earlier, I envy people who live in a world of such certitude and rectitude, kind of.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Trying that "read the post again" trick, Johnny? You suggested that RJ was a Daily Mail reader. Now stop your weasling.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Your actions on these boards are all the evidence any one of us needs.
Do you feel superior to everyone else because you're a lawyer?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Ryazan said:
So he tells us, though he remains cagey about this too.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Ryazan said:
Which is why I (and many others) reckon he's a bullshitter. I often find that JC2 is economical with the truth in ways that can only say one thing: he has an agenda. He is also one of the most dishonest people I have ever encountered on Urban.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Ryazan said:
Fair enough. I'm not a big fan of Uncle Joe myself.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Ryazan said:
Being able to argue convincingly and having a good memory for precedent is not the same as being brainy.
I mean, if lawyers have to be "brainy" how the fuck did Tony Blair get to be one!!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
(Scratches head and digs up ancient and very rusty knowledge of Russian)Ryazan said:Mwhahhaaahhaaa haaaaa ha ha haaaaaaaa. Only joking.
Za Rodina! Ura! Ura! Ura!
"The Motherland"?
Before and during, yep. You have to remember that the Yankees were already slating anyone and anything to do with communism by the 1930s, although, with their usual hypocrisy, they were happy enough to have the USSR as an ally against the Axis powers.
ViolentPanda said:
It is yes. I love Russian accents too. My bird has one, and she says sweet things to me in a sultry, sullky way that only Russian women can do.
Violent Panda said:
I knew that, but couldn't quite remember where the name Uncle Joe originated. As for propaganda, I am sure the Stalinist propagandists in the USSR tried their hand at hypocrisy when it came to being allies with the USA and Britain.
cemertyone
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Johnny Canuck2 said:
and the sunday after is good givimg day ////and the monday after good tree day..and the following friday love me up at the fridge....what you saying johhny pick any historical day and put you own political dogma attached to it....so fuck......
Johnny Canuck3
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Ryazan said:
You got me there. A lawyer could never post a silly picture.
Johnny Canuck3
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ViolentPanda said:Being able to argue convincingly and having a good memory for precedent is not the same as being brainy.
I mean, if lawyers have to be "brainy" how the fuck did Tony Blair get to be one!!
Well, there you go. You can't argue convincingly, but there's still apparently a chance that you're brainy....
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Not a bad attempt at a putdown for a "lawyer", Johnny, although pretty feeble for anyone who isn't cursed that way.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
so we are agreed, yes? you are a perfect fit, a perfectly reactionary, kneejerk fit for the Daily mail's target audience?Johnny Canuck2 said:
Thank you for agreeing for once!
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Johnny Canuck2 said:
A silly lawyer could and you often do.
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
it's not going anywhere with posts like that.Ryazan said:
have you anything to say on topic or are you just boosting your postcount?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Fuck me, you're desperate! If you're in a bad mood don't take it out on everyone else, sad sack.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Now YOU really need to 'read the post (s) again' (quote; JC2, about 16 million timeszzzzzzz...)Johnny Canuck2 said:
i realise you ain't been on form lately Johnny, so I'll make it really, really, really easy for you.
from
From my post: everything you've posted
There, have the scales fallen from the eyes yet?
and - tbh - my hazarded guess is there ain't all that much to know!
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