Squire and Partners in Lambeth

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by ricbake, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    They've been well and truly shafted. Criminally so.
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  2. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    To be fair most architectural practices are "speculative". They enter competitions. Even if they don't get contract they make themselves known. For every scheme that never makes it off the drawing board they get one they actually get go ahead for.
  3. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    More like 10-1
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  4. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    In Elephant & Castle its worse. The argument is no longer about affordable but how so
    called affordable providers are nothing of the sort.

    See this latest article from the 35% campaign. I find reading it mind boggling.

    These so called social housing providers are being taken to court by Southwark.

    A Signal embarrassment

    Provision of social housing is now a game. I find reading about it surreal. It's not fraud it's how so called social housing providers will test the law. In practice provide no social housing as the ordinary man in the street like me would see as as affordable housing.
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  5. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    There is an book launch event concerning social housing and gentrification at the Lambeth Accord building basement gallery 6.30 pm Friday 7th July
    Big Capital - book launch at 336 Brixton Road
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  6. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    I've read her other book. This one sounds good. A lot of it is known. But worth her putting into one book.

    Despite what is happening to London I am optimistic. Housing is a class issue. No one is blaming immigrants. Ordinary people I know understand that London is for "them" not "us". Anger is directed against the rich and powerful. A good sign. See the same attitudes in Brixton and Loughborough Junction.

    To add on news being listening to people in Battersea complaining about the Battersea Power station development. Oh and the developers of the Battersea Power station have just managed to reduce "affordable" housing element as it's " financially unviable" for them to do so.
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  7. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Anna was a member of the panel at the debate ("What is the role of the architect in the housing crisis?") held at the Cressingham Rotunda on Wednesday. She made the point that anger against "luxury developments" (and their developers!) is very obviously cross-class now, with not just the working class objecting to being priced out and cleansed from their neighbourhoods, but a significant minority of the urban middle classes too.
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  8. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Some bloke commenting on the Buzz article is actually drawing comparisons between the indifference some feel about this lot arriving in Brixton and the racism and troubles faced by the Windrush generation.

    And then there's this Norman Tebbit-style lecture:
    Squire and Partners talk vibrancy and show off the shiny dome of their new Brixton Department Store home
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  9. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    What's all this about? It's their offices. Are they supposed to let people just stroll in off the street and just wander around? :D

  10. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Then they're not 'social.' They're 'private' and 'exclusive.'
  11. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    I think you're misreading the press release. They're for their staff to socialise with each other. Like any other office. Or maybe you're not misreading the press release and you actually expect this firm to allow members of the public to be able to use their meeeting rooms?
  12. DietCokeGirl

    DietCokeGirl All lost in the supermarket

    C'mon, it's pretty posh for an office to have its own cafe and private garden and such. Mine doesn't even have enough desks or computers for everyone.
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  13. DietCokeGirl

    DietCokeGirl All lost in the supermarket

    Aesthetically I quite like it, they've made the most of an interesting building (design-wise) and I'm glad they've worked with the original features. I'm relieved it hasn't been turned into luxury flats or a bland TKMAXX-style effort.
    Let's hope they invite local schools to teach them about architecture, or hold some interesting exhibitions open to the public in the proposed gallery, or something. They clearly have resources so I hope they use them to benefit as many people locally as possible.
  14. lang rabbie

    lang rabbie Je ne regrette les gazebos

    The £66k "average" salary quoted is from a dubious salary comparison site and based on only two data points.

    Squires are a commercial firm and they have been doing pretty well out of the speculative residential property boom of the last few years.

    However, I seriously doubt if the median pay for their staff coming to Brixton will be anything like £66k.

    Probably knock £20k off that, unless they have suddenly started sharing profits much more widely beyond the partners in the practice?
  15. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm not misreading anything.

    When they said they were building a, "new social rooftop space expressed as a series of pavilions," what they actually meant was that they were creating a new posh private and exclusive rooftop for themselves.

    And here's that 'social' thing again when they mean private.
  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm sure most of the staff there are doing very nicely for themselves compared to a lot of workers in Brixton, and those at the top are getting a very fat salary. And don't forget there's all those channel-hopping free trips to look forward to for the staff plus jolly team building larks all around the UK too. The lucky fuckers.
  17. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Absolutely zero chance that the median pay for their staff will be anywhere near 66k. Knock 25 to 30k off that. And a big chunk of staff who will be earning quite a bit less and who may be earning, by actual hours worked, not much above the London living wage.

    Salary guide 2017
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  18. ricbake

    ricbake working out how

  19. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    A "A gin distillery, pizza oven and cocktail trolley" - just what Brixton has been waiting for!

    And look at the innovation and imagination that's going into the decor: "exposed brick, Edison light bulbs and quirky vintage furniture."
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  20. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  21. ricbake

    ricbake working out how

    Canova Hall - from the name one would expect marble entrance and fresco ceilings
  22. trabuquera

    trabuquera Modesty Bag

    "Millennial working generation" is a euphemism with so many implicit red lines baked in, it's almost funny. It means "No wrinkles, no interns, no povs" right?
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  23. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  24. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

  25. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Some choice comments at end of piece.


    I use the Beehive. Mixed crowd. The food is cheap. On Saturdays get younger crowd who eat there Saturday afternoon. Says it all refering to Beehive as a dump.

    If it wasn't for the Beehive there wouldn't be an affordable place to go now the cafes in arches have gone.
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  26. lang rabbie

    lang rabbie Je ne regrette les gazebos

    A bit embarrassing for a reputable modernist firm like Squire and Partners to have this bar full of retro junk masquerading as "Canova Hall"

    Carlo Scarpa's postwar addition to the Gypsoteka & Museo Canoviano in Possagno is one of the greatest small art gallery spaces in Europe.

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  27. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Another better comment:

    I remember back in Plymouth regularly being taken to the Lyons. This was in the rebuilt centre of Plymouth. ( bombed in WW2). Back then regeneration was about providing good affordable places for the "proles". Not now. We are supposed to be grateful that Squires have come here and set up cafe for "millennials".
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  28. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus


    There seems to be some sort of narrative that the building's tower was some sort of semi-derelict wreck before Squire came in and saved the day and added their ostentatious dome : so this photo from 2002 is worth noting.
  29. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

    I never got a response to my email asking them how come there's no weathervane like in the drawings just an empty spike on top.
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  30. ricbake

    ricbake working out how

    In May 2015 it looked ok from this angle

    And this appears to be the top of the old dome now sitting in one of the roof gardens

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