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Squire and Partners in Lambeth

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by ricbake, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm afraid neither choice fills me with even a shred of enthusiasm. I'd rather have a pint in the pub.
     
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  2. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I'd be keen to get the view at Squires. I suspect this could become a fashionable venue for those sort of events where tables feed back at the end of the session. Only trouble is the tables will probably be full of councillors plotting which zone to regenerate next.
     
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  3. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    I wonder what they're like to work for? A 10 minute commute would be nice.
     
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  4. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

    Could you and teuchter get jobs there please and invite us all to drinks in the dome.
     
  5. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Oh, their staff are very well taken care of and their perks would be the absolute envy of most Brixton workers. They get loads of freebie office jaunts abroad - Berlin, Rome, Copenhagen etc - and soapbox racing, Lovebox, Henley Regatta jollies galore! They must have shitloads of cash to throw around, but given their hyper exclusive, super-rich client list, that's not surprising

     
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  6. bimble

    bimble Is it Spring yet?

    I trust the weather vane is still to come as per the drawings?
    Can't make out if its a ship or a cockerell or what but the needle looks silly without it.
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  7. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Can't be any worse than my current employer.
     
  8. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    Loads of this stuff will be tax deductible, and make up for poor salaries which are not.

    Alex
     
  9. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    Only as long as the free Krug doesn't run out.
     
  10. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Really? This lot have been behind some of the most exclusive and richest private developments in the UK.

     
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  11. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Define "poor salaries" and place them in context of the area please. Thanks.
     
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  12. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    I'm saying that staff jollies can be defined as a business expense, which makes up for below market rate salaries.

    Compared to the area it'll all be in the top 5-10%.

    Alex
     
  13. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    They are successful, if they weren't they wouldn't be able to afford an expensive office.
     
  14. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Indeed. This lot they're shipping in from north London will be living the high life at work compared to most Brixton workers. Most can only dream of swanning around a "social rooftop space expressed as a series of pavilions" and having nibbles in their own private cafe.

    And then there's all those wonderful free trips abroad and office jaunts around the UK. Yep, this lot really are the lucky ones. Shame it's unlikely that many Brixtonites will be invited to join the party.
     
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  15. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    I'd imagine their staff live all over London.

    They've restored a brixton landmark, will be paying lambeth a boatload of business rates, their staff will be spending money in brixton businesses - this is all good for brixton - what is your beef ?

    Alex
     
  16. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Yes really. They're a direct competitor and we have some of the exact same clients.

    Times have changed. When I started here, we were doing local authority leisure centres, halls of residence and out-of-town office parks. Now it's all 5 star hotels, Bond Street boutiques and Mayfair apartments. They were the only jobs going during the recession and now it's all we do. It's fascinating work from an architectural POV, but also a sickening view into how the other 0.5% live.
     
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  17. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I doubt if their staff will be making much use of the traditional Brixton businesses - the market, Afro Caribbean stores etc - and the presence of such relatively well off people moving in will have an impact on rent and rates. It's basic gentrification - great for some (in particular people who already own homes in the area) and devastating for others (people on low paid jobs in rented accommodation).

    Do you own your home around here? I sometimes find that people who do fail to have any understanding of why those at the bottom of the pile don't share their enthusiasm for high end businesses and exclusive restaurants opening up in their neighbourhood.
     
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  18. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm sorry to hear that. I find all this luxury stuff so depressing and I'm sure that's not what you got in the game for.
     
  19. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    The hotel suite I'm working on right now has a living room bigger than my entire house.
    (I just checked, it's nearly twice as big)
     
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  20. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    That's fucking obscene. This madness has to end soon.
     
  21. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Time was you could get a decent mob together, storm their gates and loot their houses. Now they live nowhere and everywhere, while their wealth sits on a computer in the Carribean. They're untouchable. The whole system has to collapse before they even feel a tickle of inconvenience.
     
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  22. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Yet so many at the top are getting fatter and fatter through this corrupt system. Opposite me - in one of the most deprived wards in London - flats are going up starting at over half a million quid. There's no social housing included and an unspecified amount of (guffaw) 'affordable' homes.

    The flats are being flogged off with an advertising campaign drawn on Brixton's reputation as some sort of trendy gritty urban hangout while those struggling to survive nearby can only look on. This development won't improve their lives one jot. It's just another wedge that's going to eventually force them out of the area and their community. Makes me want to cry.
     
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  23. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    That sort of thing is about the "elbow" of the wealth distribution curve, as it starts to pitch up towards the top 10%. Out of reach of all but the top ranks of Squires' employees, if they pay anything like the rest of the industry. (Or those lower down the ranks with help from mum & dad)

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    If you drew that graph with a continuous line instead of discrete bars, the right hand side would spike right off the top of the screen and start interfering with planes on approach to Heathrow. Those are the people who can afford 160m² living rooms in their hotel suites, separate chaffeured Bentleys for themselves and their shopping, and entire floors of shops dedicated to one-on-one handbag sales.
     
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  24. lefteri

    lefteri Well-Known Member

    This is why I'm glad I'm out of the profession, despite my income plummeting- it was clear after the crash that the only clients left were in volume house building, spec offices and super-high end residential refurbishment. A few practices might get the glittering prizes of well-funded public buildings but even their bread and butter would be in the aforementioned sectors. At least previously there were some functioning public sector building programmes like new schools, now there's virtually nothing.
     
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  25. lefteri

    lefteri Well-Known Member

    I remember looking at the floor plans for 1 Hyde park which had been stripped down considerably and were posted on the development's website. I was very confused for a while until I realised that what I had assumed to be individual flats were actually rooms, it was that scale of magnitude bigger than what I had got used to in designing layouts for 'normal' apartment buildings
     
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  26. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    I see that someone in the comments under the Buzz article has managed to convince themselves that this practice is stuffed with people earning £66k.
     
  27. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    They were nominated in the Carbuncle Cup for this monstrosity

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    Carbuncle Cup: The Tower, Southwark by Squire & Partners
     
  28. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Oh and here's another. And fuck is it ugly:

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    Carbuncle Cup: M by Montcalm hotel
     
  29. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    I think we have bigger problems in society than un necessarily large hotel rooms

    Alex
     
  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    You don't think the growth of the property-grabbing, rent-escalating super-rich is emblematic of any major underlying problems in general society then?
     
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