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Squire and Partners in Lambeth

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by ricbake, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. ricbake

    ricbake working out how

    Just scaffolding at the moment - they have only just finished building it. Presumably it will be a green room!
     
  2. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Gotta love this spin. Their site states that multi-million development in Brixton will house "an independent bar/restaurant," but then in brackets is adds: (also owned by Squire and Partners).

    So not fucking independent at all then, least not by any normal definition of the word.
     
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  3. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Most of their developments seem to be for the super rich.

    Squire and Partners talk vibrancy and show off the shiny dome of their new Brixton Department Store home
     
  4. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Here's the finished tower:

    [​IMG]
     
  5. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    It looks fucking great.
     
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  6. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    It looks good - but I still can't come to terms with changing the copper dome to glass.

    It looks like it now needs a telescope and a Dr Who laser light thingy for communicating with Moon Base.
     
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  7. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    Wouldn't the old dome have been listed or at least enjoyed some kind historical significance status? Or perhaps it would have done but was in too poor state?
     
  8. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Seemed to be in pretty good nick to my eyes, and the opening frame of their time lapse video shows what appears to be an intact structure.

    I wish it was going to be an actual 'Department Store' rather than the offices of a global architects firm who specialise in extra-luxury developments for the stinking rich.
     
  9. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    ricbake thought either the application was so incredibly complicated that this detail was overlooked by the planners - or that this work was not in the application. (see above maybe page 2).

    You are right the building is locally listed. Don't know where you get the details - and Lambeth does not have an outstanding record of preserving locally listed buildings intact.
     
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  10. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    Name a department store which is expanding AND you wouldn't complain about being out of context for the area or contributing towards gentrification.

    Alex
     
  11. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    It seems to be extraordinarily unlikely that the dome itself was listed or protected and Squire and Partners simply chose to ignore this. Far more likely that the original structure was either not listed, or deemed too damaged or structurally unsound to be kept in its original state. I think Squire and Partners deserve the benefit of the doubt on this one, unless anyone has evidence to suggest otherwise.
     
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  12. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Why would it have to be "expanding"? Businesses can relocate. :confused:

    But I won't play your exciting quiz game because I was just expressing an opinion that I'd rather have a department store that the public can access than offices of architects to the super super rich.
     
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2017
  13. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Have you any evidence that the dome was "deemed too damaged or structurally unsound to be kept in its original state"? I reckon it's more likely Squire & Partners just wanted to provide an advert for their work and had the money to make something snazzy for themselves.

    It's not Grade 1 or II listed by the way.
     
  14. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    I think that is rather unlikely, myself. But let's not let conjeture get in the way of trying to find reasons to dislike and criticise this profit-making company.
     
  15. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    I'm assuming John Lewis or Waitrose would have been aok ? worker owned, long standing links with the area.

    Alex
     
  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm afraid you're completely wrong. The development is very much designed to showcase their work:
     
  17. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    It's on the Lambeth Local List. Not sure what that means - although normally it would be stated as a fact in planning application documentation - just like if it was in a conservation area (which it is).

    If you want to see what happens to locally listed buildings in conservation areas try the old St John's School (opposite the site of the former Canterbury Arms). In that case there are roof lights newly inserted that would be big enough to power the Police Station if they were solar panels.

    How authentically mid-Victorian can you get than that?
     
  18. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Local listing is quite different from a fully fledged Grade I and II listing status.

     
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  19. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    :confused: That doesn't prove at all, or even suggests for that matter, that they have elected to demolish and replace anything they see fit without due consideration for the existing features. So it's still pure speculation.
     
  20. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Do you have experience of dealing with planning applications?
     
  21. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    How about just criticising them for bring a profit making company? Is that ok by you?
     
  22. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    Not sure what you mean to be honest.
     
  23. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    What's wrong with this ?

    "Oh no, woe is me a large firm of architects has decided to refurbish a brixton landmark"

    Would you rather it was a pret or soho house hotel ?

    Alex
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2017
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  24. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Shame you didn't bother reading the thread before jumping in. I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I think the glass dome looks rather nice, to be honest.

    I was simply correcting T&P's assertion that the new offices weren't designed to be a showcase of their work when their own page specifically confirms that it is.
     
  25. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    Fair enough - a firm of architects designing their own corporate headquarters to not show off their skills would be beyond idiotic

    Alex
     
  26. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Indeed. And seeing as they're particularly loaded with cash, they've been able to do a splendid job of that dome. Shame that the rest of Brixton can't share in that new 'social rooftop space expressed as a series of pavilions,' though.
     
  27. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    Looks like just more office space from the exterior photos

    Alex
     
  28. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    That's how they've described it themselves and you can see it in their illustration. It looks very nice. Champers on the roof!

    [​IMG]
     
  29. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    Tattinger on the terrace surely ?
     
  30. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Let me pose the $64 dollar question:
    If you had the choice of Champers at Squires, or Champers at the Shrub and Shutter, which would you choose?
     

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