Discussion in 'Brixton' started by ricbake, Mar 25, 2017.
I've always thought Cuppa was a she .
The owners (a charity) keep trying to promote a major revamp. Don't know if any progress. They have at least repainted the front.
Sorry, my apologies. My bad
The parallels are real, a little exaggerated but still more realistic than claiming to have created a youth culture that existed 20 years earlier
I wonder exactly what a "community Post Office" is and how might it differ from a normal Post Office?
I remember when Department Store first opened Brixton Forum had meetings there. Squires junior turned up to say he wanted space to be used for local groups.
At recent meeting of a local community group last week. Seeking places for future events. Department store was mentioned. They are charging now. It's not that affordable for local groups any more.
Quoting myself here.
Bickering about Squires and graffiti is all very well.
Above post is trying to move argument on. I elaborated on it in June Brixton chat thread using David Harvey , a geographer, work in urbanisation.
If graffiti is side issue who agrees with my post above?
I expect he "threw them up" using whatever budget was dictated to him, and probably did not expect them to be destroyed by philistines.
I guess you're in the Jonathan Meades camp?
Whilst I'm mucking about on Youtube, see this "appreciation" by Anita Roddick of the original Bon Marché of which the Squires building was a 1908 extension apparently.
Anita seemed to heartily despise the department store as a concept, out of town shoppping, industrial methods applied to retail etc
This short film was made by Ms Roddick as a sort of talking point filler on BBC2 in 1992 - yet she and her husband went on to sell their The Body Shop business to L'Oréal in 2006.
Business is business. It surprised me that Squires use of downstairs area is not now that affordable for community groups. Maybe Squires will change there minds again. Its the one of the problems of the increasing need to depend on philanthropy of rich individuals. Its at there whim.
It is not imo how society should be run. But increasingly this is the case.
to paraphrase Mike Tyson; "everyone has a plan [to be socially and environmentally activist] until they get a smack in the mouth [from a large amount of cash]"
Not everyone. I know people who have turned down large sums of cash because of their ethics.
It's an interesting video.
The retail shopping experience run on a factory system. Its almost a Marxist critique. The socialisation of the means of production. As Capitalism develops it sweeps aside petit bourgeois shopkeeping replacing it with retail stores run like factories. Turning the independent shopkeeper into a proletarian.
Another David Harvey interview I listened to he says the left ( a very loose term for him) should learn / embrace technical change. Department stores aren't bad idea as way to distribute goods. The bad thing was , as Anita implies, the increased explotation of the workers.
The thing about Anita was that she thought her growing empire of shops could all be individually seen like the ye olde corner shop. A fantasy of hers.
Like Lush has recently copied she used her shops to promote good causes. But it was all top down. It was her telling her workers what to do. Lush are the new Body shop.
What she did do successfully was to show that what were niche interests like being against animal testing were profitable.
The website for the vile Brixton Central upwardly mobile lifestyle development has a gallery containing 11 images of Brixton.
No less than three of those pictures are of Canova Hall/Squire & Partners. That sums up what a fucking yuppie magnet the place is and the knock on effect this place is having.
CH1 I know you used to manage the 336 building in a previous life, but where did you get the information that Luder was the designer when it was built for Coutts? Is there some plaque in the lobby that I have missed?
The secretary of the local amenity group - who is of course himself an architect - told me the building was designed by the Owne Luder Partnership. He also pointed out that Owen Luder had designed a house for himself on Herne Hill Road. This appears to be confirmed by Wikipedia Owen Luder - Wikipedia
As regards 336 Brixton Road there is no plaque, and the history is somewhat obscured because the conversion for community use was by another architects - Pellings - and there was a major dispute (before my time). Also bear in mind the building seems to have been designed as a warehouse/distribution centre originally, so the use as a bank mainframe computer hub plus depository for share certificates and the like was itself most likely an adaption.
If you are seriously interested in the issue Coutts have an archivist (based in Crawley believe it or not). When I was liaising with them in 2008 or thereabouts they seemed very keen to explore their connection with Brixton.
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