Squire and Partners in Lambeth

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by ricbake, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

    It’s undeniable that there are two (or maybe more) Londons. The issue is what is symptom and what is cause.
     
  2. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Ive made clear my view in post 360.
     
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  3. urbanspaceman

    urbanspaceman Well-Known Member

    The Department Store

    Squires has won RIBA 2018 National and London Awards.

    "This project took an unoccupied and dilapidated former department store from 1906, and reimagined the buildings to create a series of inspiring work and social spaces for a multi-disciplinary architecture and design practice. The brief included a series of units for new and existing local businesses, including a community Post Office, coffee roastery, vinyl record store, delicatessen and bar/restaurant.

    A stunning building which has been brought back to life. Exceedingly exquisite and sensitive restoration, filled with beautiful material choice, attention to details and wonderful spaces.

    The project honours the existing building's history by keeping graffiti from swatters, revealing original features and removing paint to original colours. All new items added to the building are highlighted in bronze, with an underlying colour scheme of new inserts of gold and black…."
     
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  4. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    Swatters ?
     
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  5. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    *sets deckchair*
     
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  6. organicpanda

    organicpanda cat herder extraodinaire

    Popcorn sir?
     
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  7. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    "Exceedingly exquisite"

    And, err...

    "The project honours the existing building's history by keeping graffiti from swatters"

    So kind and honourable of them there rich folks to acknowledge the poor people what lived there in the past, and so nice it adds that little bit of urban edge to their multi million pound showcase offices. I bet their super-rich clients getting their luxury mansions designed there appreciate it too. Keeps it real, man.
     
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  8. alcopop

    alcopop Well-Known Member

    ...and they’re off
     
  9. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    What do you think about a company who make their millions designing super-luxury buildings for the super-rich showing off squat graffiti in their exclusive, private bar and roof terrace-equipped multi-million pound showcase offices? In an area where there is still real deprivation and poverty.

    Any opinion on that, or does that take too much effort?
     
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  10. shakespearegirl

    shakespearegirl just worked out taglines

    I think there is a big difference between keeping graffiti that was part of the building they moved into vs hiring someone to replicate graffiti. At least they are preserving the history of the building instead of painting it over.
     
  11. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    "Preserving" to what end? To show off to their rich clients and win swishy awards? "Here! Look what poor people did! Aren't we so connected with Brixton's vibrant and edgy past!"

    Did they even ask the graffiti artists if they wanted their work to form a centrepiece of exceedingly exquisite luxury offices?

    It's poverty porn.
     
  12. shakespearegirl

    shakespearegirl just worked out taglines

    I'm not sure how they would track down the graffiti artists to ask them if they wanted their works used.

    Would you rather it was painted over and destroyed?
     
  13. alcopop

    alcopop Well-Known Member

    I don’t have a problem with it (sure I’ve said that before)
     
  14. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    They painted over everything else there that didn't suit their exceedingly exquisite vision, so it makes no odds. I'm pretty sure the original artists wouldn't have wanted their work employed as an edgy backdrop in a multi million pound showcase office, though.

    If it was my work, I'd be well pissed off. It wasn't painted for the benefit of people designing luxury buildings.
     
  15. shakespearegirl

    shakespearegirl just worked out taglines

    Who are you or I to determine what the original graffiti artist would have wanted. It was in existence on the internal walls of a private building. When Squires bought the building the graffiti became their's to do with what they wish. They aren't ripping it out and selling it as artwork, or putting it on t-shirts for sale.
     
  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    If you're OK with with squatter's art being used - without permission - to help luxury, multi million offices scoop prestigious awards, that's fine. We can disagree. I think it's well fucking wanky though.
     
  17. shakespearegirl

    shakespearegirl just worked out taglines

    I guess we'll just have to disagree.. If it was in any context other than already being in-situ in a building that the architects had purchased I wouldn't be ok with it. For instance the recent H&M case
     
  18. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    One pouch of Roux Bros. caramelized ginger and lemongrass flavour, please.
     
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  19. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

    Can I get the same but with an edgy ‘tag’?
     
  20. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    Oh sorry. I thought the Roux Brothers were edgy. Some of their dishes are really quite controversial.
     
  21. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    There are parallels with the colonisers who stole and appropriated the art and creativity of indigineous people's while simultaneously laying waste to their culture
     
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  22. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Spot on.
     
  23. alcopop

    alcopop Well-Known Member

    Hilarious!
     
  24. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Do you plan on being a dick in every thread from now on? If you don't agree with his point, then make an intelligent counter-point.
     
  25. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I think RIBA must have changed a lot over the years. Mr Owen Luder CBE, president from 1981-1983 and 1995-1997 contributed a couple of buildings to the Brixton area, though this is the most notable
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    He is however more famous for this scenario
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    I know the RIBA article is gushing, but I find the aesthetics of Squires efforts on the Department Store more harmonious than our local lad's office and car park developments.

    I know Owen Luder was probably more concerned to throw up his concrete buildings as cheaply as possible, and no doubt did not expect them to last. And they haven't.

    Squires have given a new lease of life to an Edwardian treasure - and I leave the politics to you lot!
     
  26. alcopop

    alcopop Well-Known Member

    Fuck the politics, much prefer to focus on the aesthetics
     
  27. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Well of course a lavishly appointed Edwardian department store is going to be more pleasing than some cheaply built brutalist 70s car park!
    Well, they've given it a private, luxurious life. I can think of plenty of other uses I'd rather have seen for the building.
     
  28. alcopop

    alcopop Well-Known Member

    I assumed he was being funny. Satirically taking the piss.

    If not then you have have my heartfelt apology.
     
  29. Angellic

    Angellic Well-Known Member

    I've always liked the 336 building even though it's not in a good state. The aircon doesn't help (are they still there?) and the accessible ramp needs a redesign
     
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    Angellic Well-Known Member

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