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Spurs ask for replay?

William of Walworth said:
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I think you miss my point ...

Caling them 'Spurs' makes people sound like they're fans. It's the terminalogical equivalent of the Hammers or the Gunners/Gooners. Especially outrageous, the 'Spurs' thing, when BBC Sport people, or journalists generally, do it ...

I appreciate it's a bit of a derail ...

No I didn't miss your point at all; I just don't agree! :p ;)

Like I said, it's just what we always called 'em 'round our way. It's really not that important in the grand scheme of things though, tbh. :)
 
It's the hotels responsibility to ensure food is not contaminated.

It was then the FAs's responsiblity to sort this out, which it didn't do. They offered a 4 hour window, which would have meant the Arsenal game already finishing. So this "unfair to Arsenal" arguement they made about postponing for a day is total bollocks.

4 hours, 24 hours - it would have made a big difference to the fitness of players. Its just FA incompetence to not have rules in place for this type of situation.

Still don't think it should be replayed though, but Spurs have every right to complain about the FA's handling of the situation.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Didn't they beat Bristol Rovers 9-0 once? After 1961, I believe.

Everyone's beaten Bristol Rovers 9-0 at some point

Even Bristol Rovers Reserves
 
chieftain said:
So picture this...... 12 hours before your Champions league final in Paris 10 of your first team go down with food poisoning... what would you do?
they wouldn't, that's the whole point. that sort of thing doesn't happen with arsenal because it is such a superbly fucking run club. everything is done right.
and if there is ONE EPL club i'd finger to cop this sort of fiasco - it's spurs.


would the most important game in your recent history be posponed?
No. The rules are 100% clear in both EPL and CL. I don't often 'big up' the FA but they were entirely correct in their stance, as were the dibble (in both cases - for once!).

would you just carry on regardless?
yes - cos we'd have to. and we would, and come back harder. when tottenham develop that same resilience and bottle - THEN you'll be serious contenders. you have the players, you just need the balls.

what if you lost... what would you do then?
sue the people who provided the food for every penny they had, as you should, and I guarantee they'll settle out of court at any figure you care to name. you think you're gutted? marriottt are shitting themselves.

I'll wager ARSEnal would go on and on about it untill they got they're own way... or poison Barcelonas meat pies!!
utter, total tripe. beyond the normal, tedious gamesmanship, arsenal are a stoical lot. we've had umpteen players out for god knows how long, plus our key defender go loony, and we simply picked ourselves up and got on with it, with aslew of new players introduced. that's our season, in a nutshell.
same in '91 after we had those points deducted
 
Red Jezza said:
they wouldn't, that's the whole point. that sort of thing doesn't happen with arsenal because it is such a superbly fucking run club. everything is done right.

yeah right......... you poor self rightous fool
 
JKKne said:
they've now turned into 'the UEFA Cup is massive, we've really overachieved, we're not that big a club' types

Sounds right, for all the money they've spent over the past 15 years (fuck knows where it all comes from,) I *think* all they've done is win the league cup and qualify for the uefa cup, not really good enough.
 
Red Jezza said:
utter, total tripe. beyond the normal, tedious gamesmanship, arsenal are a stoical lot. we've had umpteen players out for god knows how long, plus our key defender go loony, and we simply picked ourselves up and got on with it, with aslew of new players introduced. that's our season, in a nutshell.
same in '91 after we had those points deducted

And our skipper jailed.

And we lost one game.

Spurs cannot possibly talk about one game deciding their fate. It's 38 games that decides things.

They fucked up well before the final game.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Didn't they beat Bristol Rovers 9-0 once? After 1961, I believe.

Yeah and we beat Reading 6-0 away in 1999. This is of course crucial in decidingwhether a side is any good or not.

What's with the digs at Rovers and Glos btw? I do notice it.
 
chieftain said:
yeah right......... you poor self rightous fool
oh really? thank you for showing us all your colossal ignorance!
as is evident to all but the most severely retarded - so someone please explain this to chieftain, slowly - by this I meant all the bits we, the fans don't get to see; the backroom nmanagement, facilities, preparation. it has long been accepted in footballing circles that arsenal is a fantastically well-drilled operation from top to bottom, just like liverpool and, for all I hate them, chelsea.
don't believe me? ask anyone working in the industry. ask a footie hack.

spurs on the other hand...why is it, I wonder, that spurs appear prone to so many self-inflicted disasters and fuckups over the years? only spurs could.... diversify into sports fashion and see it nearly bankrupt the club, appoint a CEO who's been investigated by fraud dibble, need to be rescued by an electronics barrerboy, have their own CEO break city rules on live TV, get bought by an INVESTMENT TRUST FFS and then plead penury.
'sfunny hiow disasters always come your way, innit?
you might care to try checking your facts in the future - you might end up looking less of an arse.
 
Red Jezza said:
sue the people who provided the food for every penny they had, as you should, and I guarantee they'll settle out of court at any figure you care to name. you think you're gutted? marriottt are shitting themselves.
this is, of course, exactly what spurs are planning on doing. And so it is why they had to try and get the game replayed.

They will sue the hotel for damages - an amount akin to that they would have got for the higher placing and appearance in next seasns champions league, a fairly hefty whack. In order to be eligible for compensation they would have to prove that they had made serious attempts to mitigate those damages. If they didnt complain and ask for a replay, they would be deemed not to have made an effort to mitigate, and thus lose all the cash.

Very sensible business move.
 
^

Makes sense.

Surprised – at this level – that Spurs didn’t take their own chef.

I’d imagine Arse, ManU and Chelsea would…even if it was a comparatively local fixture…

:confused:
 
Red Jezza said:
oh really? thank you for showing us all your colossal ignorance!
as is evident to all but the most severely retarded - so someone please explain this to chieftain, slowly - by this I meant all the bits we, the fans don't get to see; the backroom nmanagement, facilities, preparation. it has long been accepted in footballing circles that arsenal is a fantastically well-drilled operation from top to bottom, just like liverpool and, for all I hate them, chelsea.
don't believe me? ask anyone working in the industry. ask a footie hack.

spurs on the other hand...why is it, I wonder, that spurs appear prone to so many self-inflicted disasters and fuckups over the years? only spurs could.... diversify into sports fashion and see it nearly bankrupt the club, appoint a CEO who's been investigated by fraud dibble, need to be rescued by an electronics barrerboy, have their own CEO break city rules on live TV, get bought by an INVESTMENT TRUST FFS and then plead penury.
'sfunny hiow disasters always come your way, innit?
you might care to try checking your facts in the future - you might end up looking less of an arse.

checking my facts?? what claims have I made,what facts stated.... none you pompus ****

I've heard a few things and I seriously doubt the ARSEnal are whiter than white?

interesting you mention chelsea.... remember them tapping you up with Cole and us for Arnesen, really proffssional... even worse they got caught out

nice example though... you arse
 
chieftain said:
checking my facts?? what claims have I made,what facts stated.... none you pompus ****

I've heard a few things and I seriously doubt the ARSEnal are whiter than white?

interesting you mention chelsea.... remember them tapping you up with Cole and us for Arnesen, really proffssional... even worse they got caught out

nice example though... you arse
err, yes, there's a good wee,lad. NOW READ THE POST AGAIN YOU ILLITERATE IDIOT!
I was referring to the internal organisational efficiency of the club.
as is painfully evident - even to you.
NOT a clubs ethics or morals - just their rigorousness, meticulousness, that sort of thing.
THE TWO ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT CONCEPTS!!!
ALL the clubs I mentioned are renowned for getting every tIny detail right.
Spurs on the other hand, aren't; they are notorious for their 'fuck-up' factor.
hence the 'facts' I used in BOTH my posts to adduce this.
as is buttock-clenchingly, head-spinningly obvious.
please DO check with a footie hack - it's how I learnt all this.
jesus, are you pbman in disguise?
 
Red Jezza said:
err, yes, there's a good wee,lad. NOW READ THE POST AGAIN YOU ILLITERATE IDIOT!
I was referring to the internal organisational efficiency of the club.
as is painfully evident - even to you.
NOT a clubs ethics or morals - just their rigorousness, meticulousness, that sort of thing.
THE TWO ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT CONCEPTS YOU MORON!!!
ALL the clubs I mentioned are renowned for getting every tIny detail right.
Spurs on the other hand, aren't; they are notorious for their 'fuck-up' factor.
hence the 'facts' I used in BOTH my posts to adduce this.
as is buttock-clenchingly, head-spinningly obvious.
please DO check with a footie hack - it's how I learnt all this.
jesus, are you pbman in disguise?

I dont know how Spurs is run, and nor do you...

With the moral issue you mention any approach for a player, legal or illegal must be planned by the club so your example is a shit one

All I was trying to say was that I doubt ARSEnal are as much of a shining beacon of rigorousness, meticulousness internal organisational efficiency as you would have people believe... even if some "Hack" told you so?

What the fuck to do with Spurs or ARSEnal are you, are you personally that close to either club that you can proffer a valid opinion?

I wouldn't trust "Hacks" if I were you, come to think of it you are a pompus twat, you might just be one... or a student I suppose
 
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Donna Ferentes said:
Of course you do, they're the sides you support...

Yeah well it makes you look like a petty cunt to be quite honest with you
 
JTG said:
Yeah well it makes you look like a petty cunt to be quite honest with you
Jesus Christ. Where did that come from?

Well done mate, you've just insulted and alientated somebody who previously had no problem with you whatsoever.

Well done.
 
JTG said:
Which is probably more true of Arsenal than it is Tottenham anyway

2001 - League Champions
1991 - ditto
1981 - nothing
1971 - double winners

Much better than Tottenhams haul of a couple of league cups and FA Cups in the same years

1961 is of course the last year in which Tottenham were any good

Thing is, whatever you think of the year ending in 1 thing, the years that Spurs won anything also started with a 1.

Which means it about 7995 years before they likely to win anything again!!!:D
 
belboid said:
this is, of course, exactly what spurs are planning on doing. And so it is why they had to try and get the game replayed.

They will sue the hotel for damages - an amount akin to that they would have got for the higher placing and appearance in next seasns champions league, a fairly hefty whack. In order to be eligible for compensation they would have to prove that they had made serious attempts to mitigate those damages. If they didnt complain and ask for a replay, they would be deemed not to have made an effort to mitigate, and thus lose all the cash.

Very sensible business move.

Top post apart from the use of the fan-word 'spurs' :mad: ;) :p

I do like a bit of politics in me football comment!!! :p
 
Diamond said:
But how are they going to prove that they would have got a higher placing even if their first team were fit?

Fair point.

There are a lot of variables in this whole thing, its not simple cause and effect, doubtless marriots lawyers will ask why danny murphy, a very good player who wasnt 'afflicted' was left on the bench, plus they'll have to prove they would have beaten the very good side they would have to have played (due to them being second seeds) to even get into the CL itself, let alone what their record would have actually been (money is awarded for every win/draw.)

I dont see how you can claim compensation for something that theres no precedent for, an individual can say "I was off work for x and lost y" but theres no way tottenham can know what they have or havent lost.

The whole thing is still a shit state of affairs though and I sympathise with them.
 
http://football.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-5813028,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,27-2175255,00.html

The board accepted that six Spurs players had been suffering from sickness and diarrhoea but that of those six only two had been in the starting team in the team's last three league matches and that, including youth players, Spurs had 53 players to choose from for the fixture.

a bit different from the 10 first team players that were first said to be ill:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,1770022,00.html

The players were Michael Dawson, Michael Carrick, Edgar Davids, Robbie Keane, Radek Cerny, Calum Davenport, Teemu Tainio, Aaron Lennon, Lee Barnard and Tom Huddlestone. All but Huddlestone played some part in the game, though Cerny remained on the bench.
 
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