Split - Underground SPAM Party

[Dubversion]

I have no interest in seeing them spammed on here either.

i think you're conflating two arguments, to be honest

 

[Orang Utan]

I have no interest in seeing them spammed on here either.

Fair enough, but not the point I'm trying to make you see!

 

[FridgeMagnet]

We don't ban people advertising commercial nights here because they're "wrong" - that would be a bit hypocritical unless nobody ever went to a pay club, which clearly isn't the case. It's just because these are (a) popular boards which would get flooded with ads otherwise and (b) primarily discussion boards, and thus for discussion.

Incidentally, that sticky has actually cut down quite a bit on the number of spam threads; I was expecting a lot more over Christmas and New Year. I get quite a few PMs because of it, but most of the requests are okay, and even when they're not I try to suggest threads that they might be worth a mention on, or ways that artists can let people know about things (e.g. "post here, discuss things, get to be part of the community, then people will ask you themselves what you're doing").

 

[editor]

How far in the past?

Quite a while ago, but I don't see the difference. I still had to hire in lighting engineers, sound engineers (front of house/onstage), PA, roadies, foldback - the fucking works.

I can't see what's fundamentally changed, to be honest. Putting on a big show always means a ton of work, although it's obviously going to be easier with DJs than bands.

There's less of 'em for starters!

 

[Orang Utan]

Aaaanyway, there's a non-spam thread about the night here:
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=146112

 

[Orang Utan]

Quite a while ago, but I don't see the difference. I still had to hire in lighting engineers, sound engineers (front of house/onstage), PA, roadies, foldback - the fucking works.

I can't see what's fundamentally changed, to be honest. Putting on a big show always means a ton of work, although it's obviously going to be easier with DJs than bands.

!

I see - I'm surprised you don't seem to be aware of the costs involved then - maybe prices have risen at a ridiculous rate.

 

[editor]

spamming isn't OK, but it doesn't mean you're a fucking moneygrabber.

Again, I haven't called anyone a 'moneygrabber.'

 

[editor]

I see - I'm surprised you don't seem to be aware of the costs involved then - maybe prices have risen at a ridiculous rate.

It's a lot lot cheaper to put on DJs than bands.

 

[Orang Utan]

It's a lot lot cheaper to put on DJs than bands.

Not necessarily.
Hire an international techno DJ and you are looking at £600-£1500, plus flights and hotel.
Even a domestic lesser known techno DJ might set you back £300.

 

[Orang Utan]

Again, I haven't called anyone a 'moneygrabber.'

You haven't but you have been insinuating it by continuing to mention 'commercial events' in 'corporate venues' in very partisan terms. You may view things in that way, but I see them a lot differently. If you can't see it from my (and many others') point of view, let's agree to differ.

 

[editor]

You haven't but you have been insinuating it by continuing to mention 'commercial events' in 'corporate venues' in very partisan terms. You may view things in that way, but I see them a lot differently. If you can't see it from my (and many others') point of view, let's agree to differ.

Again, you're projecting your interpretation of my words back at me, but it looks like you're never going to get my viewpoint, so I'm happy to leave it too.

 

[Disco Squirrel]

Not necessarily.
Hire an international techno DJ and you are looking at £600-£1500, plus flights and hotel.
Even a domestic lesser known techno DJ might set you back £300.

Some Detroit DJs charge nearer £10K for a night!!

 

[Disco Squirrel]

Quite a while ago, but I don't see the difference. I still had to hire in lighting engineers, sound engineers (front of house/onstage), PA, roadies, foldback - the fucking works.

I can't see what's fundamentally changed, to be honest. Putting on a big show always means a ton of work, although it's obviously going to be easier with DJs than bands.

There's less of 'em for starters!

There is still alot of equipment to set up, especially if someone is doing a live set with laptops and samplers etc.

 

[editor]

There is still alot of equipment to set up, especially if someone is doing a live set with laptops and samplers etc.

Sure. But a 4/5 piece band - who may also be using live samplers and laptops - may also need microphones, backline mics, DI boxes, foldback, foldback mixing, drum risers etc etc...

 

[rutabowa]

bah, i put up a thread asking if people would come to this same night with me and got about 5 replies... then this thread comes along and gets to 5 pages! why is that? why??

 

[editor]

bah, i put up a thread asking if people would come to this same night with me and got about 5 replies... then this thread comes along and gets to 5 pages! why is that? why??

'Cos there was a bunfight to be had!

 

[Blagsta]

Ah. So it's the record label giving it the 'edgy' big one, then. Mind you, the flyer's trying to look all 'street', innit?

That's not really the UR style tbh.