Speed limiters for powerful motorbikes?

[detective-boy]

imo...bikes with limiters are dangerous cos you can't get out of trouble if you need to and all sorts of wankers over take you for no reason...

No, no, no, no, NO!

Why would this happen? Eh??!?

Everyone knows that all other road users are angels who never do anything stupid at all. All motorbike casualties are entirely due to all bikers being speed-obsessed, dangerous fuckwits.

Please try and keep up ...

 

[ice-is-forming]

heh


sorry..don't know how to take this ^..its just my experience as a bike rider...


(you can tell,i haven't read the whole thread eh?)

 

[Balbi]

A pal of mine was talking about this last night. He'd borrowed a bike off a mate for the weekend and was just zipping round a corner when the thing went *clunk* and stopped accelerating. His mate didn't tell him it was limited . If there'd been a passenger they'd have been flipped over the nearest hedge no doubt.

 

[weltweit]

There would be no point in powerful motorbikes if they had speed limiters.

iirc there was a 125bhp industry imposed limit but again iirc the Suzuki Hyabusa broke that.

Anyhow there are Volvos that can do 150mph no one talks of limiting them!

I do see that current bikes £6k can buy you 160mph plus are starting to push the limits of reasonable power / speed. The issue is that £6k is actually not very much so that lots of us biker louts can afford them wheras in the car / supercar league very few can afford a supercar.

AFAIKT In Germany the car makers have a self imposed speed limit of 155mph, thats BMW Mercedes Porsche etc .. and the limitless Autobahn

 

[ice-is-forming]

the actual 'legal speak' on the 'restricted' mc you can ride on restricted plates in aus is based on a weight to power ratio.....and if you actually take it at its word and not just stick to 250cc and lower .. its pretty surprising what you can actually ride...

 

[weltweit]

I would not have a problem if bikes were electronically limited to 155mph or for that matter 125bhp.

The fastest I have ever been on a motorcycle was 125mph and, it was a bike from 1977 .. and a naked .. quite fast enough on that bike it was ..

I get most pleasure on bikes from going round corners quickly and 70bhp plus is fine imho for that .... its all in the body language no

 

[Dr_Herbz]

Nice to see all the jealous cnuts crawling out of the woodwork. You know the ones, they close the gap between 2 cars to stop a bike rider from passing between them at lights etc... wankers.
I'll gladly fit a speed limiter to my Blackbird if you pay to have it removed when I ride to Germany?
I fucking hate jealous cagers.

 

[Radar]

I haven't seen the ER-6F in the flesh and don't know of anyone with one.

My last kwaka was a GPX-600 and what fun it was Had a play on a couple of GPz-600s back in the day too, if you're looking to hooliganise on the cheap, one of those plus classic insurance might be the way to go !

BTW what is classic insurance nowaays, 12 years, 15 years old or what ??

 

[pogofish]

There are a few round here, although nobody I know has one The new Z's & the big/silly ones are more the thing with them. The dealers have a longstanding good rep. Indeed they have had my buisness since the last dealership for my marque moved to a bunch of cunts. I've posted before about the shite I've had on the few occasions I've had no choice but use them.

 

[detective-boy]

Anyhow there are Volvos that can do 150mph no one talks of limiting them!

Thats because Volvo drivers are "one of us" in the eyes of the Daily Mail reading classes ... They can be trusted with power, not like us proles ...

 

[detective-boy]

Nice to see all the jealous cnuts crawling out of the woodwork. You know the ones, they close the gap between 2 cars to stop a bike rider from passing between them at lights etc... wankers.

Some tosser this morning weaved from side to side approaching the stop line, trying to close the gap I was intending taking to filter ...

 

[weltweit]

The reason why motorcycling does not really need speed restrictors despite that modern bikes are very fast is because motorcycling has a significant darwinian natural selection aspect.

A motorcyclist riding like a tit for long periods of time simply does not survive, they are eliminated from the population of motorcyclists because of this inability to survive.

There are old bikers
and there are bold bikers
but there are no old bold bikers

Motorcycling is inherantly risky compared to car driving and motorcyling carries the death penalty, for every action there are real consequences and most old bikers know this.

The reason for staged testing and limiting learners to lower powered machines is that it is desired that young motorcyclists learn in relative safety the potential consequences to their possible actions.

When I was a hairy youth you could pass your test on a dog slow Yamaha XS250 and immediately get on a lightening fast Suzuki GS1000 which by comparison was an exocet missile. Many people who did this ended up in casualty very quickly.

Motorcyclists have the death penalty, the thing that I cannot understand is why other citizens in all walks of life are not subject to the same detterrent?

 

[weltweit]

Motorcyclists have the death penalty, the thing that I cannot understand is why other citizens in all walks of life are not subject to the same detterrent?

And the simple way to make car drivers accountable in this way is to remove the airbags, remove the seat belts, remove the ABS, remove the traction contol and instead of all that fit a simple large and sharp metal spike to the centre of the steering wheel pointed back at the driver.

 

[ICB]

I fucking hate jealous cagers.

LOL, reminds me line that anyone who criticises American foreign policy is secretly jealous and wants to be American.

The reason why motorcycling does not really need speed restrictors despite that modern bikes are very fast is because motorcycling has a significant darwinian natural selection aspect.

Yes but it's also about the biker's family, the people they hit, etc.

Even if these factors aren't involved and it's just a young single person with no responsibilities stacking into a wall at 100mph it's still got a cost to society and the emergency services still have to clean up.

 

[Radar]

Even if these factors aren't involved and it's just a young single person with no responsibilities stacking into a wall at 100mph it's still got a cost to society and the emergency services still have to clean up.

Ah, but think of the money society will save in not having to employ someone to wipe his arse when he's 90 and drooling in an old folk's home As he was a biker he probably wouldn't be generating decent income for the treasury anyhow.

Same as smokers, innit ?? You could argue suicidal bikers are doing society a favour, well assuming they end up in a dry stone wall and not a people carrier.

Talking pure numbers, I assume the emergency services spend more time scraping drivers and driver's victims off the road. Surely they can squeeze the odd biker in among the nation's 4 wheeled carnage ?

I'd reread ww's 2nd to last post, he talks sense. Bikers and pilots, very similar. Old, bold but not both !

Oh, and jealous drivers do exist. Every biker riding in London has come across them, and on a regular basis. Pull out to block filtering channels at traffic lights or whilst moving. Using their car and roadside furniture to block bikes. Driving in line with traffic in other lanes to stop you getting past. You can normally tell if its deliberate based on whether they clocked you before they did it or afterwards.

 

[detective-boy]

You can normally tell if its deliberate based on whether they clocked you before they did it or afterwards.

The twat this morning knew precisely what he was doing - I could see him looking in his mirrors and approaching the stop line really slowly, moving from side to side as I moved to take the different gaps ... twat!

If I ever get given 24 hours to live, I'm going to spend it all on the bike, with a jemmy in a back-pack, looking for twats like this and beating the fuck out of their BMWs (it's usually fucking BMW's ... was this morning again ...)

 

[weltweit]

If I ever get given 24 hours to live, I'm going to spend it all on the bike, with a jemmy in a back-pack, looking for twats like this and beating the fuck out of their BMWs (it's usually fucking BMW's ... was this morning again ...)

db it is a funny thing to say 24 hours to live ..

you always have 24 hours to live except when you have less than that ..

I think you perhaps mean 24 hours without consequences no ?

Anyhow have the next 24 hours on me

 

[Radar]

The twat this morning knew precisely what he was doing - I could see him looking in his mirrors and approaching the stop line really slowly, moving from side to side as I moved to take the different gaps ... twat!

Sounds like time for the unfortunate stall, directly in front of him and an inch off his front bumper. It's amazing how long it can take to restart an engine under such circumstances, especially if flustered by drivers blasting horns etc etc

There's a lot of wankers out there, and they all seem to be on the roads during rush hour and Sundays

 

[8ball]

Speed limiters on motorbikes would be bad.

A) Because they add a Nanny-state-pussy-health-and-safety element to a cool and dangerous piece of kit. As if the helmet rule wasn't bad enough. Still, I get round that with my turban.

B) You'd never be able to shake off the pigs.

C) Because it would worsen the already woeful shortage of donated organs.

 

[Radar]

If I ever get given 24 hours to live, I'm going to spend it all on the bike, with a jemmy in a back-pack, looking for twats like this and beating the fuck out of their BMWs (it's usually fucking BMW's ... was this morning again ...)

Nitromors in a super squirter, jobs a good un Assuming it wouldn't melt the squirter. You'd need a holster for it, like those rifle holsters horse-riders used in the westerns !!

Imagine the shite that would make out of a metallic painted Bimmer

I'm off to B&Q and Hamleys for some random purchases

 

[Radar]

Arse, double post

 

[ICB]

Talking pure numbers, I assume the emergency services spend more time scraping drivers and driver's victims off the road.

In pure numbers I'm sure you're right, pro rated to people/miles travelled I'm fairly confident the contribution from motorcycles is disproportionate.

Oh, and jealous drivers do exist.

What makes you think they're jealous rather than just inconsiderate, deliberatly annoying or intolerant of bikers? Perhaps they've had their car scratched by a bike, or their son was crippled in a bike crash, or they just think bikers are pricks. Surely if they wanted a bike they'd have one.

The idea that they must be jealous seems to be premised on the assumption that we all secretly think the same way about how great motorcycling is but some people aren't admitting it to themselves.

 

[weltweit]

Jealous because bikes can cut through traffic and cars can't.

Thats my understanding anyhow.

 

[pogofish]

ICB - Why does their inconsideration always turn-out to be potentially hazzardous to bikers? You would think someone who had lost or seen someone suffer might be inclined to exercise more care? I'd go with, "yup, still cunts" myself.

8Ball - IIRC the turban exemption has only ever applied to mopeds or at most very small-engined motorcycles.

 

[ICB]

Jealous because bikes can cut through traffic and cars can't.

Thats my understanding anyhow.

Sure, I was just pointing out that that needn't necessarily be the case. I can see the advantages of being able to weave through traffic but that doesn't make me jealous as it's outweighed by other things.

ICB - Why does their inconsideration always turn-out to be potentially hazzardous to bikers? You would think someone who had lost or seen someone suffer might be inclined to exercise more care? I'd go with, "yup, still cunts" myself.

Not always surely, often just an inconvenience. I tend to admire riders who don't have to compulsively move to the front of any given queue. Is it that they are more mature and sensible, or is it that they are all riding wide-arsed BMWs and Hondas?

 

[Radar]

What makes you think they're jealous rather than just inconsiderate, deliberatly annoying or intolerant of bikers? Perhaps they've had their car scratched by a bike, or their son was crippled in a bike crash, or they just think bikers are pricks. Surely if they wanted a bike they'd have one.

Poor choice of words on my part, I suppose vindictive, curmudgeonly or misanthropic are just as apt.

And they don't have a bike becuase they're shit scared of riding one or their missus won't let them

 

[Dr_Herbz]

Sure, I was just pointing out that that needn't necessarily be the case. I can see the advantages of being able to weave through traffic but that doesn't make me jealous as it's outweighed by other things.

Such as? - The only major problems bikers face are cunts in cars and piss poor road surfaces... the latter, we can deal with, the former can also be dealt with but it usually results in a court date.

I tend to admire riders who don't have to compulsively move to the front of any given queue. Is it that they are more mature and sensible, or is it that they are all riding wide-arsed BMWs and Hondas?

Self confessed jealousy... Stuck in a life of bumper to bumper queues of pissed-off cagers who wished they had the balls to stand up to their wives and buy a bike but because they've had their balls removed, they're no longer capable of making decisions for themselves, instead, they jump on the 'all bikers are cunts' compliancy bandwagon and attempt to make themselves feel better about their shortfalls in the bollocks department by attempting to kill anyone who does actually have a set

 

[djbombscare]

Well I see that as usual, the debate has turned into the Bikers v Car Drivers slanging match.

I dont wanna go all hippy an that, but cant we all just get along. I mean look it all boils down to lack of space on the road and everyone wanting to use it at the same time.

Car drivers who have never been on a bike, hate bikers and accuse us of being reckless dangerous etc because they purely dont understand, think that we have no control, are jealous whatever etc etc etc

Bikers hate car drivers cos they are all safe in their little metal boxes thinking about anything other than driving cos they're on autopilot, drive like twats whatever etc etc etc.

Needless to say, they are both methods of trasport with pros and cons. They both have to use the same network of roads at the same time. So lets turn all that hate round. . love each other a little more and just all get along.


And together we can turn our hatred away from each other and focus it somewhere else like. . . . cyclists.

Scourge of the transport network, un-insured, un-taxed, up and down pavements, red light jumping, highway code rule breaking menace to society that they are are.


I say ban them, restrict the top speed of their cycles so that they have to pedal like hamsters on a wheel to get nowhere. Tax them off the highway by inflating tax on power bars and isotoinc drinks. Ban them from wearing cycle clips and lycra in public places.

maybe it is producing less carbon but all that heat from their sweaty bodies is warmin up the atmosphere.

Force them to prove they can handle their bike proficiently by making them do a 1/4 mile manual wheelie. After all with no training they can go into a shop, by the biggest bike they find AND RIDE IT ON THE ROAD THAT VERY SAME DAY


WITH NO TRAINING


THAT VERY DAY


and without the aid of ID.


THEY COULD BE ANYONE



















Let us hug each other. Bikers embarce yoru nearest car driver and together we can unite and fight against the spandex satan of the road network.

















Oh and by the way, just in case. . . I AM JOKING

 

[djbombscare]

On a quick visist to the garage yesterday I saw a headline on the latest MCN.

I looked like it was saying it was all bollox but I aint read the article just the headline.

So anyone on here read it yet ?

 

[pogofish]

No. Nothing on their website yet either.