Speed limiters for powerful motorbikes?

[Juice Terry]

Check out Max Biaggi for a lesson in wheelies

 

[djbombscare]

check

hmm there is a bit of a roundabout at the end of the high street... wont the extended swing arm etc make it harder to get my knee down?

What ya doing getting ya knee down.


you gotta flop it over til ya get the panels down these days


kneedown is so last century

 

[djbombscare]

Check out Max Biaggi for a lesson in wheelies

12 O'CLOCKERS. . .


You wanna check out Urban StreetBike Warriors.


Some guys does what they call the crucifix. 12 o'clock a wheelie then let go and lay back with your arms out stretched

 

[detective-boy]

Driving or riding at very high speeds is ALREADY banned.

Yes.

So why do you want to fuck about with people's motorcycles then? Why the fuck should people have their bikes fucked about with when cars aren't?

Except because YOU really couldn't give a fuck because you are not a biker. And so it doesn't matter to YOU.

You have gobbed off from an entirely selfish point of view and, having been caught out, you are now digging for England ...

 

[detective-boy]

some people use the internet for doing nefaious stuff.. some are kiddie fiddlers.. best ban the internet then or at least make it illegal to have any images or videos on it as some of its users break the law in this way and hurt others as a result.

Some of the fuckwits on here probably view paedophiles as a notch or two up from bikers ...

 

[geminisnake]

There are some right fucking wanker motorcyclists* on uber-bikes out there, mind.

(*although clearly not all bikers are like this)

Totally agree. As someone who has been involved in bikes on and off for over 20 yrs it is really p*ssing me off that born agains and bloody car drivers who think they can jump on a bike and be 'heroes' are fucking things up left, right and centre
Some of the forums my hubby goes on are filled with morons(imho) I'm sorry but if you don't know if your new 1000cc bike is capable of doing a 100 mile run ok then why the f*ck did you buy such a powerful thing?

I'd best go read the rest of the thread now And I will try not to rant later too.

 

[Pingu]

you mean i wont be able to ride to aberdeen and back on my R6 without filling up?

how pooh is that?

mind you i used to have a tuned rgv that i had to stop to fill up on a trip to betws (only 70 miles from where I lived). and again on the way back. it used to do about 19 to the gallon if i didnt cain it

 

[geminisnake]

Pingu, you are making me laugh on here. Thank you

Hopefully we will be going on an Easter Egg run on Sunday. First run for for too long.

Non bikers, people who drive bikes get miffed at being picked on for no REAL reason, ok.
I'd happily accept a limiter on our bikes if every other vehicle on the roads is getting them too.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Yes.

So why do you want to fuck about with people's motorcycles then? Why the fuck should people have their bikes fucked about with when cars aren't?

Except because YOU really couldn't give a fuck because you are not a biker. And so it doesn't matter to YOU.

You have gobbed off from an entirely selfish point of view and, having been caught out, you are now digging for England ...

I'm not digging at all. Care to admit your stuff about banning electricity was rubbish yet?

Again you've attributed something to me I haven't said - there's no suggestion from me that bikes should be treated differently from cars. I've explicitly made that point.

I haven't even made a passionate case for putting limiters on. All I've said is that I couldn't see why not. A usual response is 'well - here's a reason why not.' Instead you made a ridiculous post about me wanting to ban electricity.

Someone else - in what sense is a limiter a restriction on you, unless you want to ride ridiculously fast? Would anyone here actually call for speed limits to be abolished?

 

[Radar]

you mean i wont be able to ride to aberdeen and back on my R6 without filling up?

Riding to Aberdeen and back on an R . the only thing filling up would be your boots with blood as your arse systemically breaks down into mince meat

Longest run I do on a regular basis on the RR is London to Holyhead. I *heart* the A5 when its dry and not busy. I can do about 400 miles in one whack (that's 3 stops for fuel) before my arse loses all sensation and I have to get off and whip it with razor wire to start feeling anything again.
You'd think after spending all this money with them, Honda would at least provide the razor wire

 

[Radar]

Also, most larger bikes have been sold with power/performance limiters for years now.

Are they still, I thought the voluntary 125 bhp limit was quietly dropped by the importers ?

 

[Radar]

Again you've attributed something to me I haven't said - there's no suggestion from me that bikes should be treated differently from cars. I've explicitly made that point.

To be fair, your first post states " can't say I care a great deal, but I can't really see why they shouldn't be fitted really."

You didn't mention limiting other vehicles at all in that post, so I suspect that's why you got the reaction you did. Bikers (including me) read that as you solely wanting restictions on bikes. Notice how most of your replies are asking why not apply it across the board instead.

Anyhow I'm off to a 100+ wheelie up Cornhill and go baiting police cyclists. I may be some time.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

To be fair, your first post states " can't say I care a great deal, but I can't really see why they shouldn't be fitted really."

You didn't mention limiting other vehicles at all in that post, so I suspect that's why you got the reaction you did. Bikers (including me) read that as you solely wanting restictions on bikes. Notice how most of your replies are asking why not apply it across the board instead.

That was because the thread is about bikes, so the response was about bikes.

When someone else mentioned it I could understand why he might think that so he got a civil reply, where I made it clear that the same reasoning applies to cars, as far as I'm concerned.

Once I'd made that explicitly clear and detective boy still kept putting words in my mouth I was a bit irritated though.

ETA: That someone else was you, looking back. I've no problem with your response at all.

 

[pogofish]

Think they pushed up to 150bhp, then droped it, dithered & reinstated it again. Most models still have some sort of limitations tho. Hence a lot of reason behind the aftermarket chip biz & many medium power/size models are chipped down/restricted to meet the direct-access requirements in the UK & for Europe, to match-up with the various of fiscal-horsepower categories used by their insurers

 

[pogofish]

Pingu - The numerous R-riders of the Aberdeen area would welcome you. After all, they have to get used to going a long way to go to almost anything else!

Sri Son Saorsa Rally here next month - get some padding in yer pants!

 

[Radar]

Think they pushed up to 150bhp, then droped it, dithered & reinstated it again.

Ahh I didn't know that, I haven't had a big bike since the blade got nicked back in '97. Only 600s since then, and even the 07 RR is sub 125 bhp (Mine's an 05). The last time I asked an insurance company for a quote on a 1k blade the geezer on the phone actually laughed, followed by a "You really don't want to ask me that" I thought what a cunt at the time, but fair play to him really If he hadn't done that and just declined me, then strictly speaking I'd have to declare that on every prop form for god knows how long

To be honest that's not a totally bad thing. You have to pay a bit more attention on a smaller bike, it's not just point and shoot. Also in my case scaring myself less implies I can push the handling limits a bit more when its safe to do so.

I'm such a girlie, I've done my crashing phase and fucking painful it was too

 

[geminisnake]

Sri Son Saorsa Rally here next month - get some padding in yer pants!

I believe Lidl do gel undies for cyclists, might help??

 

[pogofish]

Yup, I'm in the looking at new bikes phase just now & I'm trying very hard to convince myself that I really don't need a rocket & should just stick to another nice midrange bike, but....!

 

[Radar]

Yup, I'm in the looking at new bikes phase just now & I'm trying very hard to convince myself that I really don't need a rocket & should just stick to another nice midrange bike, but....!

Yeah, the head says one thing, but the heart and bollocks say something else entirely Whatever you do, don't take a fucking test ride on some 07 crotch rocket !! You'll never get away with your credit rating intect !!

When I bought my first 600RR back in 03, I only dropped into Chiswick Honda for some free coffee and a toot at their new toys. Two weeks and one test ride later, I was down 7K and the proud owner of a line on their waiting list

In truth, that turned out to be one hell of a costly cuppa but I wouldn't have it any other way really

 

[TopCat]

Speed limiters won't work. My last crash was at 45mph and I was close to getting killed, still can't run or jump.

 

[detective-boy]

Again you've attributed something to me I haven't said - there's no suggestion from me that bikes should be treated differently from cars. I've explicitly made that point.

Your original post made NO reference to anything else at all - so if you did mena to apply the same to every road user it wasn't apparent - we are not mind readers.

I can see an argument for speed limiters on ALL vehicles. What I object to is the casual biker-ism which your original post appeared to be and of which there is way too much.

You now seem to be denying that is your position and that is fair enough.

As for why no limiters - they affect performance as well as top speed and lots of bikers use their road bikes on track as well (where speed limits do not apply) but the main reason is why should we be tootling along at 70mph whilst Mr Fuckwit in his company BMW is still driving way, way too fast for the conditions in his unregulated four-wheel coffin? ESPECIALLY when more detailed understanding of the statistics shows that most deaths are caused by fuckwit car drivers .... But, hey, why apply any sort of fairness when we all know that [only bike] speed kills ...

And speed limits - yeah, loads should be reviewed. They are fucking stupidly inflexible and, hence, fall into disrepute.

 

[detective-boy]

Speed limiters won't work. My last crash was at 45mph and I was close to getting killed, still can't run or jump.

The anti-bike lobby have probably got their intended limit below that ...

 

[Pingu]

Yup, I'm in the looking at new bikes phase just now & I'm trying very hard to convince myself that I really don't need a rocket & should just stick to another nice midrange bike, but....!

lemmie see

my r6 is "midrange"

will do over 140 and 0-60 in a time that would shame a 70k supercar... and wil outhandle most litrebikes

no need to go for a litrebike unless you really need the extra torque

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Your original post made NO reference to anything else at all - so if you did mena to apply the same to every road user it wasn't apparent - we are not mind readers.

I can see an argument for speed limiters on ALL vehicles. What I object to is the casual biker-ism which your original post appeared to be and of which there is way too much.

It's only there if that's what you expect to see, there's actually nothing to suggest that. I answered a question about bikes, that's all, not cars. And you continued to rant on AFTER I'd explained myself to someone who didn't react like you did.

And oh look, you're STILL going on like that in that same post.

 

[detective-boy]

And oh look, you're STILL going on like that in that same post.

I haven't got a fucking clue what you are going on about. You use words which say one thing. And then get the arse when someone challenges you on it. Then you say you didn't mean that at all. And then you revert back to type ...

* Gives up *

 

[Idaho]

I don't know what you are all fussing about. Something like this should be enough for any biker:

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I haven't got a fucking clue what you are going on about. You use words which say one thing. And then get the arse when someone challenges you on it. Then you say you didn't mean that at all. And then you revert back to type ...

* Gives up *

OK. Find somewhere I've said that I think bikes should be treated differently than cars.

It's just not there, is it? So that post, yet again, is based on nothing at all. How am I 'reverting to type' unless type means thinking you're being an idiot?

FWIW, I think fitting them to bikes but not cars would be stupid.

 

[pogofish]

Idaho - that made me feel ill.

 

[pogofish]

Pingu/Radar.

Yes, sense should prevail but something is saying that I should take the plunge on a larger bike now I'm old & "sensible" enough. However, my inside-leg rules-out many of the literbikes just now.

But, I've been offered good prices on both an R1 & a harley in the last week but the riding position on the R is a little full-on & my arse & toolkit are simply not big enough for the HD.

Anyone got any thoughts on the Kawa ER-6F?

 

[ice-is-forming]

imo...bikes with limiters are dangerous cos you can't get out of trouble if you need to and all sorts of wankers over take you for no reason...