Speed Cameras

[Velouria]

Just read the link. What is this piston heads site? Looks like some dodgy car fiends site to me so I don't trust it. That whole, just trying to raise money bit seems spurious to me. If you don't speed, you won't get done for speeding. If you do, then you deserve it.

On your point about catching people doing 32 mph, if there were more or less blanket coverage of speed cameras, then it would be easy to identify people who just strayed over the speed limit by a small ammount and then they could appeal. Or something like that. Also, can you be done for doing 32? What is the accuracy requirement for car speedometers?

The unofficial leeway is +/- 10%, but the bastards can still do you for 1mph over. The law is the law

. Bastards

Traffic police cars (and bikes) have accurate speedos that should be calibrated very regularly. Once a week, or daily - can't remember which.

 

[pogofish]

Truck/commercial drivers have been warning each other of speed traps/stops ahead for years. Maybe they are more concerned about ordinary drivers developing the same sort of fellow feeling.

As for warning other drivers, maybe. Depending on where the speed trap was situated, I doubt I'd bother with a fixed camera. For other forms of hazzard, eg livestock on the road, red desiel check, debris, breakdown on a bend etc, yes. Have done so, often.

 

[Alf Klein]

M4 bend warning sign is on the evelated section which has a reduced speed limit. I think you will find bends on motorways where the limit is 70mph are designed for speeds up to 120mph.

I'm prety sure the one I'm thinking of is not on an elevated section. It's eastbound near the Newport tunnel.

 

[Griff]

Just read the link. What is this piston heads site? Looks like some dodgy car fiends site to me so I don't trust it.

Dodgy?

Yeah, maybe it is. It's for people like me who like Porsches, Aston Martins, TVRs etc. etc. etc.

Dodgy!

 

[bigbry]

When did you last see a bend warning sign on a motorway?

Last year on A75 in France - 80 kms an hour (50 mph) going round bend (definitely not a curve) halfway down a mountain !

 

[Jessiedog]

The unofficial leeway is +/- 10%, but the bastards can still do you for 1mph over. The law is the law

. Bastards

Not so.

The law states that automobile speedometers MUST be accurate to within +/- 10%. That means that at 30mph, your speedometer MUST read between 27mph and 33 mph.

Hence, it is legal to travel at 33mph in a 30mph zone ('cos your speedometer could be 10% out) - but illegal to travel at 34mph ('cos that's over 10%).



Woof

 

[Alf Klein]

Dodgy?

Yeah, maybe it is. It's for people like me who like Porsches, Aston Martins, TVRs etc. etc. etc.

Dodgy!

What do you like about them?

 

[Griff]

What do you like about them?

Everything. Shapes, sounds, performance, handling, build quality (well not in the case of TVR).

I really, really want a Porsche 911 for all the reasons mentioned above.

Ideally a 964 but manual not Tiptronic.

 

[Ich bin ein Mod]

Last year on A75 in France - 80 kms an hour (50 mph) going round bend (definitely not a curve) halfway down a mountain !

Not in Britain though is it?

 

[Cotch]

I'm prety sure the one I'm thinking of is not on an elevated section. It's eastbound near the Newport tunnel.

Yup, I think you are right there.

 

[detective-boy]

Not so.

The law states that automobile speedometers MUST be accurate to within +/- 10%. That means that at 30mph, your speedometer MUST read between 27mph and 33 mph.

Hence, it is legal to travel at 33mph in a 30mph zone ('cos your speedometer could be 10% out) - but illegal to travel at 34mph ('cos that's over 10%).

Actually the two laws are not directly related. The speedometer requirements are part of the Construction and Use Regulations. The speed limit comes from various legislation, some primary but most secondary. There is no exemption in the speed limit legislation so theoretically 1mph over is enough for an offence to have ben committed.

The reality of expecting motorists equipped only with the speedometers required by law to keep to it meant that the "unofficial" 10% margin before a prosecution took place was introduced (and remains). (A similar issue applies in relation to drink-drive limit where prosecutions only follow when the actual limit (35ug/100ml breath) is exceeded by a certain amount (40ug +))

 

[Jessiedog]

Actually the two laws are not directly related. The speedometer requirements are part of the Construction and Use Regulations. The speed limit comes from various legislation, some primary but most secondary. There is no exemption in the speed limit legislation so theoretically 1mph over is enough for an offence to have ben committed.

The reality of expecting motorists equipped only with the speedometers required by law to keep to it meant that the "unofficial" 10% margin before a prosecution took place was introduced (and remains). (A similar issue applies in relation to drink-drive limit where prosecutions only follow when the actual limit (35ug/100ml breath) is exceeded by a certain amount (40ug +))

Thanks db.

But, as a matter of law, wouldn't the +/- 10% law confound the law that can bust you at 32 mph in a 30mph zone. i.e. it would be a defence if you were hauled into court for doing 32mph in a 30mph zone and likely a succesful one, prima facie loike?



Woof

 

[pogofish]

Not in Britain though is it?

This bend is:

On the M90 southbound & it is signed & chevroned in at least one direction - it is even tighter going north. According to CRBD, it is the tightest bend in the whole UK network.



This one amuses me as well, from Cuba:

How do you think UK drivers would take to a level crossing on a motoway!

 

[Cotch]

I love the fact the bridge over the road goes nowhere!

 

[pogofish]

Think it was meant to carry the railway but nobody ever bothered to finish it!

Even better:

"Continuing away from Havana, there is a grade-separated junction branching off left to Santa Clara. After this the motorway could be described as incomplete. In places only one carriageway has ever been brought into use. Drivers are warned of this by small, dirty, unlit signs. If you are not careful and are unfamiliar with the road you can find yourself bouncing along the dirt at night-time as the carriageway you were on stops and traffic is diverted to the other side!

http://www.cbrd.co.uk/reference/international/cuba.shtml