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Gramsci

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My Spanish partner is happy the PSOE did well. Sadly her father a long standing PSOE member died recently so didn't live to see this.

This election shows how divided Spain is. My partner was telling me this wasn't just about economics. The right want to roll back on women's rights for example. Also limit welfare benefits to ordinary Spaniards.

The shadow of the civil war still holds for many Spaniards. Which side your family was on.
 

planetgeli

There's no future in England's dreaming
My Spanish partner is happy the PSOE did well. Sadly her father a long standing PSOE member died recently so didn't live to see this.

This election shows how divided Spain is. My partner was telling me this wasn't just about economics. The right want to roll back on women's rights for example. Also limit welfare benefits to ordinary Spaniards.

The shadow of the civil war still holds for many Spaniards. Which side your family was on.
The rise of Vox has been directly linked with an infamous rape trial recently in Spain. The Guardian's take on it is here (below), and is not far wrong from what my Spanish relatives have told me. There has been a concomitant rise in feminism, which Vox seeks to crush.

The shocking rape trial that galvanised Spain’s feminists – and the far right
 

Favelado

Half to the Tower, please.
I think Catalonia has been a bigger factor in getting voters out for Vox than anything else. Walk into any cutre bar in Madrid, and the bar-flies are on about it.
 

planetgeli

There's no future in England's dreaming
I think Catalonia has been a bigger factor in getting voters out for Vox than anything else. Walk into any cutre bar in Madrid, and the bar-flies are on about it.
Yes of course, Spanish nationalism dressed in fascist clothing is always going to find a threat in the separatist nationalism of others, that's a given. But it would be remiss to deny where and why the anti-feminism of the fascists has risen from.
 

Favelado

Half to the Tower, please.
It's the same people. The same shits with their little Spanish-flag wristbands on. Pijo, barrio salamanca, shitcunts. Don't like these red trousers? Don't worry - I've another ten pairs, with an entire Smarties box array of pastel-coloured Ralph Lauren Polo jumpers to ties around my waist to go with them.

There's nowhere in the world like Spain you see. Italy? It's just pizza and pasta. Nada que ver tio.
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
The rise of Vox has been directly linked with an infamous rape trial recently in Spain. The Guardian's take on it is here (below), and is not far wrong from what my Spanish relatives have told me. There has been a concomitant rise in feminism, which Vox seeks to crush.

The shocking rape trial that galvanised Spain’s feminists – and the far right
Just showed that to my Spanish partner. Yes big issue in Spain.

And this happened last year. Remember my partner telling me about it.

If last year’s International Women’s Day (IWD) saw record numbers of Spanish women take the streets, this year’s confirmed the fact that feminism had reached critical mass. Police estimated 350,000 people rallied in Madrid, 200,000 in Barcelona, and 50,000 in Seville and Bilbao – the biggest turnouts among hundreds of others throughout the country.
So agree its one of the issues that divides Spain. My partner told me about the massive turnout for IWD.

Francoism never really went away. Vox are getting PP voters. These voters never really changed there views.

PP was the party for ex Franco supporters. Making it more respectable. Now some of these PP supporters have voted for Vox. Its not that the voters politics or views on womens rights have changed.
 
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Favelado

Half to the Tower, please.
80% of votes counted in Madrid local elections and Manuela looks like she's just going to lose.

The only politician I've ever had in charge of a place I've lived that I like, and she's going to be kicked out. She's managed to be genuinely left-wing, cut the city's debt in half and say stuff like "I just want to be everyone's Nan." and make it work. She has spent her life fighting on for the right causes and I'll be so gutted if she misses out.

Her party will get the most votes but the right look like they will win overall by one council seat to take control of the town hall.

They'll do this by forming a coalition with fucking VOX, who want me want to fucking vom.

Really sad that something so nice is going to come to an end. To be replaced by the C's cunts, the PP bigger cunts, and the unspeakables.


EL PAÍS
 

Riklet

procrastinación
Terrible news from Madrid. Madrid lost Carmena, Carmena didnt lose Madrid. She genuinely made it a much finer city while I was living there. And saved a heap of money. And at least made an effort to take the fight to the rich and powerful rather than sucking up to them.

Bah! The power of the right in comunidad de Madrid is depressing.
 

redsquirrel

This Machine Kills Progressives
Appalling sentences
The region’s former vice-president Oriol Junqueras was convicted of sedition and misuse of public funds by Spain’s supreme court, and sentenced to 13 years in prison. He was also banned from holding public office for 13 years.

The former Catalan foreign minister Raül Romeva was convicted of the same offence and sentenced to 12 years’ imprisonment and handed a 12-year ban on holding office, as were the former regional government spokesman Jordi Turull and the former labour minister Dolors Bassa.
Wonder what that defender of democracy the EU is going to say.
 

Smokeandsteam

Exiting the Vampire Castle
In fact the EU do have a comment:

"A spokeswoman for the European commission said it had no comment to make on the decisions of national courts, but added the commission respected the decisions of the Spanish judiciary.

“Our position on this is well known and has not changed,” she said. “This is, and remains, an internal matter for Spain, which has to be dealt with in line with its constitutional order.”"
 

butchersapron

blood on the walls
A joke of a high judiciary in Spain - the parties choose the people who go onto the General Council of the Judiciary which appoints all supreme court and high court judges - same for the Constitutional Court.
 

planetgeli

There's no future in England's dreaming
No soy independentista pero tampoco soy gilipollas.

Prize money available if you can post a picture of a moving car in the centre of Barcelona right now.
 

planetgeli

There's no future in England's dreaming
I’m hearing some fairly serious disturbance at Terminal 1 El Prat. Police have fired tear gas, thousands involved in demonstration.
 

sim667

Licking windows on the 303 bus.
Scenes at Barcelona airport, can't say I'm surprised though, I was over in Catalonia at my folks over the summer, and the politicians who'd been arrested seemed to be being treated with the reverence of a Saint or a Martyr.
 

Riklet

procrastinación
General strike and protests converging on Barcelona on Friday. Id imagine there will be attempts to reoccupy the airport too.

Think it will kick off big time. I am surprised by the severity of the sentences, even though I shouldn't be.
 
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