Spanish Political News

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by dessiato, Jun 2, 2014.

  1. dessiato

    dessiato Maholo e ke akua no kei la

    At 10:25 today, Monday, the king of Spain has abdicated, according to Channel 6 here.

    What is this likely to mean for the Spanish royal family, and for Spain generally?

    I suspect that nothing is likely to change, but that this might have been precipitated by the current scandal surrounding them.
     
  2. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone ubi sunt

    He's setting a fine example. Are you watching Queen Elizabeth II?
     
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  3. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

  4. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Not really, the ideal example would be him turning his elephant gun on himself. That would have worthwhile.
     
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  5. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone ubi sunt

    Maybe. I suppose abdication and the abolition of the monarchy don't necessarily go hand in hand. Que lastima.
     
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  6. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    fucking hell, that's a bit of a surprise!
     
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  7. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone ubi sunt

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  8. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    So this presumably means Feliipe becomes King then?
     
  9. Sirena

    Sirena Don't monkey with the buzzsaw

    The reintroduction of the monarchy was very important when Franco died. There was a real dread that the horrors of the Civil War could be repeated. I was living in Spain when Franco started to get ill and I wasn't going to stick round if the thing went pear-shaped.

    As it was, they kept Franco alive for years while they cobbled together a new model and the transition from the old world to the new world happened almost without a murmur.

    But that was 40 years ago and the world has changed since then. It's an interesting development. I think the Spanish people largely like the monarchy.
     
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  10. Favelado

    Favelado Oh you've got green eyes.

    There has been a wave of republican sentiment recently. I hope for a mass demonstration in the centre of Madrid today. Let's see how things unfold.

    We want the third republic!
     
  11. Wilf

    Wilf Aghast.

    Fuck him and his thieving family.
     
  12. dessiato

    dessiato Maholo e ke akua no kei la

    I'm looking forward to going to the hospital today to hear what my doctors have to say about this. It should make a very interesting topic for class.
     
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  13. Favelado

    Favelado Oh you've got green eyes.

    Only 54% support last poll I saw.
     
  14. mrsfran

    mrsfran Slightly less bulbous

    I genuinely had no idea that Spain still had a monarchy.
     
  15. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    Nothing on channel 9

     
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  16. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    Yes. King Juan Carlos took the throne after the death of Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez lost his head in Scotland in 1985.

    [​IMG]

    The former King of Spain
     
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  17. Favelado

    Favelado Oh you've got green eyes.

    You're making me laugh frieda but it's a bit early to be on the sauce isn't it?
     
  18. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    Doesn't seem to address the problem, really. It's now just the King's brother in law in court not the King's son in law for example...
     
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  19. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    I'm on the espresso waiting for the hospital to ring me back so I can go to bloody work:mad:
     
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  20. Mr Moose

    Mr Moose What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?

    There'll be more medieval news later, but here's Tom with the sports...
     
  21. dessiato

    dessiato Maholo e ke akua no kei la

    I wonder if I'll get a day off for the coronation. Knowing my luck I'll be back in the UK working.
     
  22. Favelado

    Favelado Oh you've got green eyes.

    changed my mind.
     
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  23. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    That's often trotted out. What's not highlighted quite so often was the monarchists role in bringing franco to power then their tireless work hand in hand to the open fascists of the falange and franco's far-right authoritarian dictators to sustain and legitimise the rule and to put it in such a dominating position that it would never be effectively challenged again. And that involved playing a role in then covering up then justifying the post-war murders of tens if not hundreds of thousands of people, then doing the same with the ongoing actions of the police state - the mass jailings, the continuous primitive executions by garroting, the spying on then stamping down on any forms of independent political organisation - all this administered and ran by the nice democratic monarchists (and spain was a kingdom all this time btw - there was no king, but the state was a monarchy) and the plundering of the state and its people.

    And this is rarely mentioned precisely because it would undermine the myth of the democratic transition - the one where the old elites retain all their power and any hint of ideological contamination from Portugal or the rebirth of influence of the old left and anarchist groups is sidelined and outcast by our new democrats - the one where the state changes form but the content largely stays the same. The one where the elites fear of challenges to their power was sold as fear of civil war.

    There's only one sane response to such democrats.
     
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  24. Idris2002

    Idris2002 incels to the gulag

    [​IMG]
     
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  25. Favelado

    Favelado Oh you've got green eyes.


    Juan Carlos is often credited with "putting down" the Tejero coup, but I think it's as likely that he saw the coup was failing and THEN played his hand, making sure he came out of it looking gorgeous.
     
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  26. quiquaquo

    quiquaquo Well-Known Member

    That has always been my impression too.

    This is the family that shoots itself in the foot literally. Bunch of retards.
     
  27. Favelado

    Favelado Oh you've got green eyes.

    In the forehead too of course, not just the foot. How you can kill your brother in a gun accident and end up with an increased enthusiasm for firearms is beyond me.
     
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  28. Mr Moose

    Mr Moose What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?

    Resigning in favour of your son? Who says you can't abdicake and eat it?
     
  29. strung out

    strung out (",)

    I thought Ashley Giles fucked off months ago?
     
  30. Wilf

    Wilf Aghast.

    Not bad, not bad.
     

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