Spain vs Holland, World Cup Final !!!

Discussion in 'World Cup 2010 South Africa' started by Dandred, Jul 7, 2010.

  1. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    I disagree, I think they missed having a combination of two strikers, a genuine, quick winger, and Xavi/Iniesta picking the ball up deeper. I the only period of play where they came close to over-running a good team was the second half against Portugal, with Llorente and Navas on. But that would've meant not picking two defenders to sit on the halfway line for 90 minutes.

    Maybe it's a bit of an overstatement, yeah, given the resources they had, I think I can be forgiven for that.
     
  2. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    I think the krauts are the moral wold champs here.
     
  3. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    In 08, it was Senna's job to pick up the ball from the deep and make the first incisive pass of a move. I think they missed him more than anyone, really.
     
  4. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    They were completely snuffed out as an attacking force by Spain – one chance in the whole game! They came up short.
     
  5. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    So?
     
  6. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    Did anyone see this comedy character last night as Spain ran onto the pitch with their trophy? :D

    [​IMG]
     
  7. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    So they were not as good as Spain. Neither were Holland. Paraguay came closest.
     
  8. stupid dogbot

    stupid dogbot Haughty and Superior

    I'd imagine he can see himself in the Alonso role, tbh...
     
  9. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    Xabi Alonso's passing is less incisive that Marcos Senna's? News to me...
     
  10. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Did i specify results or did i specify morals?
     
  11. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    IMO yes. Most good things in 08 started with Senna. He was brilliant.
     
  12. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    I'll be generous and just say that this is not a very commonly held opinion... regardless I think XB is more than capable of playing that role if the rest of the team had been set up similarly.
     
  13. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    You don't agree that Senna was player of the tournament in 08?
     
  14. Streathamite

    Streathamite ideological dogmatist

    prolly right, but he'd be lucky
     
  15. Diamond

    Diamond The Red Baron

    It staggers me that people are criticising Spain's passing style.

    It's immaculate.

    You might be able to make a case that they aren't direct enough in their movement but even then you're on pretty weak ground.

    Lo Siento comes across as if he deeply resents the Spanish. Which is ironic considering that he lives there.
     
  16. Diamond

    Diamond The Red Baron

    That's nonsense. LBJ is correct. Senna was the lynchpin back then.
     
  17. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    People are saying to you, to your face, over and over, that "they aren't direct enough in their movement ". Deal, with that, don't make up some mad basset strawman.
     
  18. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Did you see the movement diamond, the movement, off the ball?
     
  19. Diamond

    Diamond The Red Baron

    Eres muy loco.
     
  20. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    why do you need to vocalise what w/c take as second nature?
     
  21. Diamond

    Diamond The Red Baron

    Vocalise?

    Really?
     
  22. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    He's going down the wing now, that means he's drawing the full back across and he other centre half is also aware, thereby making a potential gap in the middle that a midfielder can come on to.

    It's a philosophy now.
     
  23. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    yep

    Or wankisize.
     
  24. Diamond

    Diamond The Red Baron

    I had you down as a theorist.

    Apparently not.
     
  25. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    You had me wrong, I like football, You don't. You like the idea of football.
     
  26. Streathamite

    Streathamite ideological dogmatist

    the right side won (and Van bommel wins it for me as clogger of the tourney) but I could get very quickly bored watching spain
     
  27. Diamond

    Diamond The Red Baron

    Let me get this right.

    You're vocalising that I'm being pretentious?
     
  28. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    No. I'm typing it. What a fierce trap.
     
  29. Diamond

    Diamond The Red Baron

    You're slipping towards self-parody here.
     
  30. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Is his really your last get out - that i said/typed vocal?
     

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