Soviet style advertising

[Termite Man]

Does it mean as well that when you take your clothes off theres a smaller identical you underneath but just in different colours

I bloody hope not ! I don't think shells could get much smaller

 

[onenameshelley]

I bloody hope not ! I don't think shells could get much smaller

YAY mini me's

 

[Ryazan]

i love soviet-style imagery and graphics. it's very powerful. i love the architecture as well. big and bold. same with the nazis. bunch of cunts but hey - great image. black and red - you can't really get much more striking than that.

Stalin era apartments are nicer than Krushchev.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Also you have to differentiate between early Soviet art and architecture - most obviously constructivism - and the Stalin era, which saw an enforced turn towards so-called socialist realism.

Lissitzky's About 2 Squares:

You can look at the whole thing here: http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/el/pro01.html

Tatlin's Monument to the 3rd International:

Stepanova's clothes designs:

 

[Ryazan]

I wans't referring to constructivism.

Just a pseudo classical style with wrought iron balcony is more des res than a shoddy pefab monstrosity.

 

[belboid]

Also you have to differentiate between early Soviet art and architecture - most obviously constructivism - and the Stalin era, which saw an enforced turn towards so-called socialist realism.

that was quite a good argument, until

Stepanova's clothes designs:

 

[Ryazan]

Chunky legs too.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

A) That's a sports costume, not something she designed for everyday wear. The point was to be functional, cheap and easy to manufacture but stylish.

B) I think it's cool.

C) That's Stepanova herself in the picture and I won't hear a word said against her. She was one of the great Constructivist artists and designers and like many other women artists her contribution is often overlooked in favour of that of men. She was married to Rodchenko, which doesn't help on that score.

 

[SubZeroCat]

Doesn't babushka mean grandma anyway?

 

[Ryazan]

Check out post 18.

 

[belboid]

A) That's a sports costume, not something she designed for everyday wear. The point was to be functional, cheap and easy to manufacture but stylish.

B) I think it's cool.

C) That's Stepanova herself in the picture and I won't hear a word said against her. She was one of the great Constructivist artists and designers and like many other women artists her contribution is often overlooked in favour of that of men. She was married to Rodchenko, which doesn't help on that score.

somehow, I dont see Tesco picking up on it somehow!

 

[Nigel Irritable]

somehow, I dont see Tesco picking up on it somehow!

Maybe, but that's because Tesco are shit.

More of her work:

And here's a picture of Stepanova and Rodchenko being way too cool for school:

I'll go get some of her set designs and fabrics if I get the time.

 

[Cloo]

My housemate told me she had an interesting conversation with a Czech bloke once who asked 'If it's unacceptable to use Nazi imagery, how come its acceptable to use Communist imagery?'

Some people might say 'Cos Communist imagery looked cool' I suppose...

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[Ryazan]

You've got the enemy part right.

 

[The Boy]

My housemate told me she had an interesting conversation with a Czech bloke once who asked 'If it's unacceptable to use Nazi imagery, how come its acceptable to use Communist imagery?'

Some people might say 'Cos Communist imagery looked cool' I suppose...

I can think of a few people who think that the same applies of nazi/fascist imagery.

Not saying I agree with them, but to say that one is acceptable because of aesthetics while the other is not doesn't really make sense to me.

 

[Pickman's model]

You've got the enemy part right.

which part of it's wrong?

 

[Ryazan]

Well, you my friend, are a sheep in wolf's clothing.

 

[Pickman's model]

Well, you my friend, are a sheep in wolf's clothing.

a) i'm not yr friend;

b) i don't wear fur.

 

[Ryazan]

In answer to A, you don't wisen to sarcasm very quickly do you.

In answer to B, only you could be stupid enough to take what I said in a literal sense.

 

[Pickman's model]

In answer to B, only you could be stupid enough to take what I said in a literal sense.

yeh.

yr right!

only i would be fool enough to indulge such a wanky little self-hating emotionally stunted individual as yrself.

 

[Ryazan]

Self-hating?

Where has that come from?

 

[Nigel Irritable]

My housemate told me she had an interesting conversation with a Czech bloke once who asked 'If it's unacceptable to use Nazi imagery, how come its acceptable to use Communist imagery?'

What I want to know is, after the instutionalised pillaging and mass murder that was the British empire, why is it still acceptable to use the imagery of the British military and ruling class? Or, given that 11 million children a year die from malnutrition or preventable diseases, why is it still acceptable to use capitalist imagery of any kind?

 

[Skim]

its called the Babushka (sorry dodgy spelling) which is the same as the Gypsy look of the summer only in winter colours from what i can see. Yes being a peasant is finally cool

I've got the ripped smock. And some vodka.

 

[Sorry.]

What I want to know is, after the instutionalised pillaging and mass murder that was the British empire, why is it still acceptable to use the imagery of the British military and ruling class? Or, given that 11 million children a year die from malnutrition or preventable diseases, why is it still acceptable to use capitalist imagery of any kind?

that's a much better answer than I gave the guy who asked me this the other day ("s'all about context, what it means to the people using it and to the people viewing it, hence the use or misuse of the word n*****")

 

[poet]

In bits of Asia relatively unaffected by the war they use Nazi imagery as we use Soviet imagery. It's all about distance, innit.

 

[poet]

http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/2000/0605/southkorea.trouble.html

 

[Nigel Irritable]

that's a much better answer than I gave the guy who asked me this the other day ("s'all about context, what it means to the people using it and to the people viewing it, hence the use or misuse of the word n*****")

The key thing to remember when arguing with right wingers is not to let them limit the terms of the discussion. Don't give an inch to the type of motherfuckers who say things like "well isn't politics more like a circle than a line, so that the extreme left and the extreme right blah blah blah"...

 

[kyser_soze]

My housemate told me she had an interesting conversation with a Czech bloke once who asked 'If it's unacceptable to use Nazi imagery, how come its acceptable to use Communist imagery?'

Some people might say 'Cos Communist imagery looked cool' I suppose...

Well it probably would be poor taste to use such imagery in a country that had suffered greatly under the Soviets, no? Less so in the UK, no?

Nazism was more of a fashion thing when it comes to 'cool' rather than design which tends to be gothic/super-massive neo-clasical stuff rather than C20th imagery and design (which was regarded as 'bolshevik', hence the closure of the Bauhaus etc).

 

[Leica]

Nazism was more of a fashion thing when it comes to 'cool' rather than design which tends to be gothic/super-massive neo-clasical stuff rather than C20th imagery and design

Don't be so sure, nazism in propaganda design as in many other things was not consistent at all -- they were also copying things they saw elsewhere and thought would work.