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Southern Rail - wtf's wrong with them

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by Minnie_the_Minx, Dec 21, 2015.

  1. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Right, think I'm going to give that a go. Bus looks like it's only a few stops so just need to look on map to figure out where bus stop is.

    Thanks colacubes
     
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  2. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Right, so I walk up to end of St John's Road and turn which way for 197 or 176 and which side of the road do I need. Google maps now pissing me about.

    Think I need to shut laptop down in a minute as overheating
     
  3. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    I was waiting at Gypsy Hill for a Southern Train last week and they changed the time the next train was coming SEVEN times without announcement.
     
  4. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    That I do not know I'm afraid but there will probably be a map in the station when you get there.
     
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  5. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    hope so, and now condensate pipe in kitchen has started leaking and I have to go and deal with that :rolleyes:
     
  6. ohmyliver

    ohmyliver poppin' like a cork

    There's a direct train from Streatham Hill to Sydenham - it's the London Bridge one, takes 22 mins. Failing that train to Streatham Hill to Crystal Palace and then Train or Overland to Sydenham
     
  7. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    I know, and it's been fucked. Yesterday when I looked just before I left the house, there was no disruption. Got to Streatham Hill station, and a few minutes before trains supposed arrival, it came up delayed, and delayed and delayed and delayed again, and ended up being 16 minutes late. The day before that, (or it may have been day before), there was already a train at the station. I asked someone on train if it was going to sSydenham or Crystal Palace and they said it was going to Crystal Palace but not sure about Sydenham. I got off the train and saw driver walking down and asked if it train was going to Crystal Palace or Sydenham and he asked me what train I wanted. I said the 10.41 (or whatever time it was). He confirmed that this was indeed the train. I ended up in Norwood Junction. It didn't go to Sydenham at all :mad:
     
  8. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Yesterday I got the one to Crystal Palace (as that's the one that was coming first), so I intended getting off at Crystal Palace and getting Overland train. This was the train that was running late, so I had 2 minutes to get off train (and typically I was at far end) to go charging over to platform 5. Luckily the driver saw me charging down the stairs and held the train a few seconds
     
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  9. ohmyliver

    ohmyliver poppin' like a cork

    Southern Rail's service is so bad that even the free market hedgefundamentalists of City AM cheered on the news that it's London services will be taken over by TFL. The cancelling of trains due to lack of drivers is especially facepalm.

    I used to regularly take that line to go to work, and change for the overland at Crystal Palace. It's woeful. But it's 1 min from my daughter's nursery.
     
  10. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    That's not a Southern route, it's Southeastern.

    Nope. It's Southeastern.

    Why is that going to make any difference when most of the problems are either caused by track/signalling problems, or simply by congestion.
     
  11. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    Congratulations. You receive 1000 pedantry points :cool:
     
  12. ohmyliver

    ohmyliver poppin' like a cork

    Track/signalling/congestion problems are the cause of a lack of a driver (which was a common reason for cancelling Southern trains from London Bridge going via Tulse Hill? Well I never would have guessed that.
     
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  13. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    When on the high street cross the road and go up hill to the Homebase, all the buses going north stop there.
     
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  14. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    How is it "pedantry"? They are two entirely separate companies.
    I'm not sure if you're having a laugh or what? That is ONE line. And as matter of fact the answer is YES. How do you think drivers get to where they need to be? On the train like everyone else. And like everyone they can be affected by disruption too, yet people seem to expect them to appear out of thin air, whatever else is going on.
     
  15. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    Jesus :D :facepalm:
     
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  16. 5t3IIa

    5t3IIa Registered User

    This reminds me I forgot to measure the step off the train at WeNo the other day. It was high!
     
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  17. neonwilderness

    neonwilderness What would Badgers do?

    You should have taken a photo (being careful not to misuse the lens hood)
     
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  18. 5t3IIa

    5t3IIa Registered User

    I was bunking the train so kind of in a hurry.
     
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  19. neonwilderness

    neonwilderness What would Badgers do?

    You monster :eek:
     
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  20. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    He's right though. Disruption can mean that drivers don't get to their train in time.

    He's also right to point out that if people are going on about Southern being particularly bad as an operator, then it doesn't make sense to start including services run by another operator.

    I've no reason to defend either company in particular but most of this disruption is really caused by limitations in the infrastructure, which remains regardless of the operator. The infrastructure is owned and managed by Network Rail.
     
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  21. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    the bastards :mad:
     
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  22. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    Do you know what he might well be. But as it happens I didn't even notice that Minnie had written the wrong operator, and neither do I really care tbh. I was merely trying to help her complete her journey more successfully. And hopefully that has happened.
     
  23. Artaxerxes

    Artaxerxes Well-Known Member

    True enough, to many trains into London, not enough track and far to many bottlenecks.

    Chronic underfunding is a fucking bitch and the less you invest the more you have to invest later and its been going on for far to fucking long.
     
  24. ohmyliver

    ohmyliver poppin' like a cork

    well, yes, on reflection, see that conical hat with a D on it, that's mine that is.
     
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  25. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Cheers, may give it a try. Ended up getting a taxi there and back today
     
  26. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Where in Sydenham are you going? Right outside the southbound exit at Penge East you can get the 75 to kirkdale and go down the high street.
     
  27. ohmyliver

    ohmyliver poppin' like a cork

    Actually I'm at Streatham Hill station now and the trains are shown as Southern trains not South Eastern, so nerr.
     
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  28. magneze

    magneze mnemonic beef

    They also run Thameslink through Streatham & Tooting which is also absolute balls at the best of times.
     
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  29. Bungle73

    Bungle73 I was there, now I'm here

    Who mentioned anything about Streatham Hill? Not me. :confused:
     
  30. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    That would probably make sense if I knew which way was uphill :oops:

    Have wandered on google maps and can't see Homebase anywhere near St John's Road. Do I turn left or right at the top of St John's Road? Sorry to be a pain :D

    I can see one of the transmitter towers if I go right, so I'm guessing it's that way. Sorry, but I have absolutely no sense of direction
     

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