South Park - Yay or Nay?

[kyser_soze]

YAY!

Utter genius programme - outside of 'Don't find it funny' most of the crits on here are based on an incomplete knowledge of Southpark (Idris for example).

Cartman is one of the funniest characters ever - as a source of inventive invective he cannot be beaten and he should be listed in Insult dictionaries for years to come.

Absolute fucking genius.

'Rainbows, dolphins. It's all a bunch of tree hugging hippy crap'

 

[xes]

"you donkey raping shit eater"

 

[butchersapron]

I didn't think much of Team America to be honest. There were a few laughs but it was all overshadowed by an annoying right wing neocon agenda. I heard once Stone and Parker were paid up members of the Republican Party, and after seeing Team America I can believe that.

Nah, you're way off on that mate.

 

[PacificOcean]

Nah, you're way off on that mate.

It seemed very pro war/anti liberal/pro republican to me too.

 

[butchersapron]

It seemed very pro war/anti liberal/pro republican to me too.

I'd say it was anti-everyone and everything - and the makers peresonal politics are a mixture of liberatarianism and piss taking really. There's nothing wrong with laughing at hollywood liberals - it doesn't make always you a raging right-winger.

edit: interesting link here:
http://www.theadvocates.org/celebrities/trey-parker.html

" In an interview with In Focus magazine (October 4, 2004), he said, "What we're sick of -- and it's getting even worse -- is: You either like Michael Moore or you wanna f**kin' go overseas and shoot Iraqis. We find just as many things to rip on the left as we do on the right. People on the far-left and the far-right are the same exact person to us.""

 

[Brainaddict]

It's pretty funny sometimes and I enjoy watching it, but I can't help feeling they've pushed some of the 'ironic' humour too far for undiscerning audiences to be able to...well, discern that its ironic. A gay friend reckons its responsible for the upsurge in the use of the word 'gay' as a general playground insult - don't know if that's true.

 

[akirajoel]

Er... The thing about Team America (and what i think is so cool about it) is that it rips into everyone pretty equally.

As for being pro-war and that. Erm.. Did it ever cross your mind that it might have been being satricial?

AMERICA!! FUCK YEAH!!


Dumbasses....

 

[Belzub]

Yay, but it gets a bit tedious at times - that episode where they keep saying 'shit' and it raises a dragon or something was just rubbish.

Haven't seen many of the latest episodes, are they better than the new simpsons? (I sincerely hope they are)

 

[adsr]

Lemmiwinks was a stroke of genius although it frequently gets slated.

 

[akirajoel]

Yay, but it gets a bit tedious at times - that episode where they keep saying 'shit' and it raises a dragon or something was just rubbish.

Yeah. That episode was really really poor.

Seriously - the new ones are miles miles better than that. Seriously.

Heh.

 

[PacificOcean]

As for being pro-war and that. Erm.. Did it ever cross your mind that it might have been being satricial?

Well, it was being very, very sutble in that case.

 

[maomao]

Well, it was being very, very sutble in that case.

Anyone who thinks Family Guy and American Dad are funnier than South Park clearly doesn't have a very well developed sense of irony.

 

[akirajoel]

Well, it was being very, very sutble in that case.

Are you joking?!?!?!



Are you dumb or sumthing?

Team America - they go around and 'save' the world by destroying it. Blowing up that french tower thing, and the place where the art is. etc.

"Cario? Thats in Egypt isn't it?"

"Well done!"




Some people man..........

 

[kyser_soze]

Blowing up that french tower thing, and the place where the art is. etc.

After you little rant about culture and stupidity not getting the Eiffel Tower and the Louvre right is pretty fucking shoddy AJ.

 

[butchersapron]

Sucker

 

[kyser_soze]

Well, if he's basing it on the film it's about as funny as dog poo...haven't seen TA yet as haven't had the time and too many conflicting reports...

 

[akirajoel]

After you little rant about culture and stupidity not getting the Eiffel Tower and the Louvre right is pretty fucking shoddy AJ.

Mmmm... The ironing is delicious.

 

[Brainaddict]

Anyone who thinks Family Guy and American Dad are funnier than South Park clearly doesn't have a very well developed sense of irony.

Yes, but that's sometimes precisely my problem with south park. A *lot* of people don't have much of a sense of irony and I imagine it gets read wrongly by a lot of people. That might sound patronising, but we've just seen someone do it on this thread.

 

[akirajoel]

Well, if he's basing it on the film it's about as funny as dog poo...haven't seen TA yet as haven't had the time and too many conflicting reports...

Its one of those films that you should watch with a large group of people with some snacks and some drinks...

From my own experience most people who don't like it don't "get it" - not that there's really that much to "get."

Worth seeing once.

 

[akirajoel]

Yes, but that's sometimes precisely my problem with south park. A *lot* of people don't have much of a sense of irony and I imagine it gets read wrongly by a lot of people. That might sound patronising, but we've just seen someone do it on this thread.

I see your point BA - but so what? Does that make that you can't enjoy it?

Loads and loads of comedy (and other art) gets misapropaited by people who read it the wrong way - but (for me) that doesn't tar the original in anyway.... (i.e. Brass Eye)

 

[Brainaddict]

I see your point BA - but so what? Does that make that you can't enjoy it?

Loads and loads of comedy (and other art) gets misapropaited by people who read it the wrong way - but (for me) that doesn't tar the original in anyway.... (i.e. Brass Eye)

I do enjoy it, as I mentioned above, but I also think it has far more scope for misinterpretation than any other comedy I can think of - even Brass Eye. I think British people often have a more developed sense of irony than americans, and I've heard several people say they thought TA was pro-war - imagine how many Americans might have read it that way too.

Also, I dont' for a moment think south park is homophobic, but I dont' think kids absorb the irony of the use of the word 'gay' as an insult - they just start copying it and suddenly gay=bad is back in fashion. It makes me wonder whether it isn't a bit irresponsible. Sorry to sound like a grumpy old man. Like I say, it makes me laugh, but...

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, but that's sometimes precisely my problem with south park. A *lot* of people don't have much of a sense of irony and I imagine it gets read wrongly by a lot of people. That might sound patronising, but we've just seen someone do it on this thread.

*wrings hands*

 

[Wess]

Great show...but then I'm easily pleased.

Good episodes....
Crips - Timmy and Jimmy join the crips (Roller and 4 legs)
and Towlie ... Wanna get high? (after a few drags on a joint...I just got no idea what I'm doing )

...and Butters alter-ego (Professor Chaos) is a work of genius.

...and his mate "General Disarray" .... there's a scene with them 2 in the Crips episode where all the Super villians are sitting at a long table and Cristopher Reeves is "Chris"

 

[PacificOcean]

Anyone who thinks Family Guy and American Dad are funnier than South Park clearly doesn't have a very well developed sense of irony.

Insulting me just cos I prefer something different to you is not on. Anyway my iron is fine. It's a Phillips with steam boost.

 

[In Bloom]

Absolute genius.

"Stupid spoiled whore video playset"

American Dad strikes me as a little weak on satire though, a few passing cheap shots, but not much substance to it.

 

[maomao]

Insulting me just cos I prefer something different to you is not on. Anyway my iron is fine. It's a Phillips with steam boost.

Criticism is an insult?

*gives up talking*

 

[Wess]

"you donkey raping shit eater"

Shut your fucken face Uncle Fucker

 

[PacificOcean]

Criticism is an insult?

*gives up talking*

I was only jesting you buffoon!

Anyway, Family Guy kicks South Parks arse!