South Norwood news and chat

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by Manuka, May 8, 2014.

  1. se25 resident

    se25 resident New Member

    Former Emerton's DIY shop to be occupied by Mamma Dough, an independent pizzeria / restaurant, following submission of a planning application.

    Mamma Dough

    Craft Beer Shop and Taproom to open on Selhurst Road - broadly opposite the Costa Coffee.
  2. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    We are now recruiting for the Woodcraft Folk "Pioneer" group - for children from 9 to 11 years old - having successfully set up local groups for "Elfins" (5-9) and Woodchips (under 5).

    There is a waiting list for the Elfins and Woodchips, because we are full, but there are still spaces for the Pioneers, seeing as how we have not met yet. We will be starting in September, 4:45pm at the Waterside Centre next to South Norwood Lake. Here is the Facebook post one of the leaders put up on Facebook today, in case any of you have children of the appropriate age, and are local enough to get to us:

    "Message for parents of new Y5/6/7s, looking for term-time out-of-school clubs, next school year.

    The local Woodcraft Folk group at South Norwood Lakes is expanding and starting a brand new Pioneer group for 9-11 year old starters in September. They have 5 more slots to fill for new starters, to form this new group.

    If you’ve missed out, been stuck in waiting list limbo for other local clubs, or looking for a move up from an activity with a younger age-profile, this could be perfect for your child/ren.

    What is it?
    A mixed, inclusive youth activity group with a nationwide membership. Emphasis on enjoying games, outdoor activities and nature together, and gaining team-based, confidence-building skills, with some residential / camping opportunities.

    Who can join?
    You can join as a Woodcraft Folk Pioneer if you are 9, 10 or 11 years old (and stay on until 13th birthday). Inclusive, mixed gender group.

    South Norwood Lakes, Waterside Centre.

    Provisional meeting time: 4:45pm to 6:15pm, Monday evenings.

    What next?
    Contact Ro Marsh via for more info, or to request a place on list of September starters.

    Please do share with others who may be interested in joining.

    Woodcraft Folk"
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  3. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Is there a new pub opened just down the hill from the Stanley Halls? Walked past yesterday and it kinda looked like someone had converted an old Victorian residence into a pub. Looked well posh for the area.
  4. Callie

    Callie Pivoting

    The Portland arms??
  5. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Technically correct that it's down the road, but I mean literally next door :D
  6. Callie

    Callie Pivoting

    I was confused as I don't think it's that posh either :oops:
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  7. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    You don’t mean the conservative association social do you? That’s next door to Stanley halls and is being rebranded to try and attract people. Although it’s still affiliated to the Tory Party, I believe.
  8. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    On the other side of Stanley halls is the school. Which used to be part of Stanley halls actually, so perhaps you mean next to there?

    I’m intrigued. :)
  9. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    I'll have to go back and double-check now, but it's definitely between the Halls and the junction where you go down Portland Rd. Same side of the road as the Halls.
  10. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    There is a pub on the corner which used to be a big CPFU supporting pub and which is now being refurbished, but that was obviously a pub and is not that close to Stanley Halls....

    I just drove near there, but forgot to look.
  11. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Yeah not that one, a few houses further up. I'm almost tempted to go down again now just to figure this out! I did have a look for a name or a sign but couldn't see anything, which was a bit odd. First thought it was just a house-party or something, but they had a proper bar with taps and all.
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  12. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    It might well be the constitutional club (aka Toryland). It is an odd building which kind of blends in or something - I didn't notice it for years, even though it was next door to Stanley Halls.

    The fact that you are not saying that it is not that, makes me think that you might not have noticed it before, either, so it might be that. If that makes sense...

    Go and have a look and report back :)
  13. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    That may well be it. Will have to have a closer look.
  14. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    Man charged with murder of 'loving grandmother' (click for more)
  15. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    I just drove that way, and you can only mean the Constitutional Club - SNCC - South Norwood Club London - it has been painted grey and the sign taken down, so that no-one knows it is a Tory place :D :D

    In fact, the website doesn't mention the Tory Party at all! You have to download the membership form before it becomes evident.

    Stay away from it unless you want to support the Bastard Tories.
  16. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Must be it. Ta.
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  17. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Local news:

  18. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

  19. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    This is 20-year old local South Norwood resident Tyrone Farquharson who has been convicted of the murder of Kelva Smith in South Norwood with large 'Rambo' knives following a dispute over a stolen motorbike ....


    Farquharson was also found guilty of possessing an offensive weapon, a knife. A 16-year-old boy of East Croydon was also convicted of possessing an axe but was found not guilty of murder. A 14-year-old boy from the South Norwood area was found not guilty on all counts.

    The court heard Farquharson and Kelva had been childhood friends before the fatal attack.

    Jurors were told Kelva Smith had stolen a motorcycle from Gordon Crescent, Croydon, several weeks earlier and intended to sell it.

    On 5 March 2018, he was told that Farquharson and a 14 year-old boy had been riding it around the local area.

    He contacted Farquharson on the phone to try and get the bike returned as he walked to Archer Road with his cousin.

    When they arrived they were confronted by the three suspects. Farquharson pulled out a large Rambo-style knife and stabbed Kelva five times.

    The victims were chased to Albert Road, where Kelva collapsed on the pavement.

    Farquharson was seen laughing and joking as he walked back to his home after the attack. The murder weapon was never recovered.

    All three suspects handed themselves in to police. The stolen motorbike was found at the back of flats in Albert Road.

    Detective Sergeant Rob Tickle, from the Homicide and Major Crime Command, said: "Kelva Smith died close to his home; ambushed and attacked by someone he once considered a friend.

    "This young man lost his life due to a disagreement over a motorbike. He suffered appalling injuries in the middle of a busy street where families live and play.
    "This was not a gang-related crime, nor was it postcode-related; it was a senseless and preventable one, committed by Farquarson making poor choices to resolve a dispute by carrying knives and weapons with deadly consequences.

    "Now there are two families who are suffering through the wasted potential of young lives close to them, some through the guilty verdicts handed down today and most tragically, through the family of Kelva Smith having to bury their son. This has to stop.

    "Since the day of Kelva's murder, the accused individuals before the court have sought to frustrate the investigation and have treated the seriousness of the trial with utter contempt and disdain. Shouting from the dock and laughing and joking between themselves, they showed Kelva and his family as little dignity in death as they did in the final moments of his life."
  20. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    What is the source of this story?

    I mean - the details and the quotes.
  21. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your concern and interest.

    The trial of those charged with the murder of Kelva Smith and related offences was widely reported in the local media. You will see that no-one else has made any reference to the trial or those reports. The words of Detective Sergeant Rob Tickle are those spoken by him.

    The actual facts of the case reveal that:

    (1) Both victim and perpetrator were well-known to each other;

    (2) Both lived locally; and

    (3) The murder had nothing whatsoever to do with gangs.

    Tyrone Farquharson will be sentenced at the Old Bailey on 7 December 2018.
  22. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    This is a laudable initiative by the local hippies in South Norwood:


    Removals firm 'boss' Steven Bull, 55, is believed to have built the Grenfell Tower replica alongside his partner, a teacher; Bobbi Connell, 19, has been named as one of the men in the video by his own grandfather; his father Cliff Smith, 49, apparently hosted the 'party'; Mark Russell, 49, Paul Bussetti, 46, and 19-year-old Trent Bogle were also all pictured at the incident and have been arrested. As their representatives have all subsequently claimed in the media that they are the victims, will they be attending to give their accounts to the local community in multi-racial South Norwood?

    As others have apprently already asked, are there any plans for the march to pass Norhyrst Avenue, where the incident which gave rise it it actually occurrred?


    If nothing is done now, where will it all end?​
  23. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    1. We are not hippies. :D
    2. Once again, you appear to have quoted something without indicating its source. What is that about?
    3. No - we are not marching past either the houses of the people involved, nor the Conservative Club.
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  24. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    See what I mean Guineveretoo?
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  25. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    About what?
  26. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    About this GarveyLives being a crap poster.
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  27. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    Was there ever any doubt about that?
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  28. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Probably not.
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  29. Guineveretoo

    Guineveretoo Mostly bewildered

    Quite a bit of coverage of the march, including on the telly on ITV London News last night.

    Hundreds march through South Norwood to support Grenfell

    Which made me laugh with this statement - "the South Norwood Woodcraft Folk (and you know you are on the side of the righteous when you are marching with the Woodcraft Folk)"
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  30. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

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