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South London mob attack cops after 15yr old told to pick up litter

living in Croydon and seeing *some* of the kids acting in a completely feral way this is no great surprise to be honest.

having said that i've also seen some of the police treat them like utter shit as well.

How long do you have to deal with people acting like that till you feel like
giving some back ?
 
till you feel like
giving some back ?

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How long do you have to deal with people acting like that till you feel like
giving some back ?

well i am sure that comes in to play.

in fact i know it does from talking to my friend who is dibble.

however we do expect standards from them but they are only human.
 
FFS, half of these posts look like they'e been copied from readers' comments at the Daily Hate. Any of you who live in Brixton ought to know what bullies the police here can be. You should be able to imagine any number of scenarios that might cause 30 people to riot over what may appear at first to be a trivial issue.

You're all joking, aren't you?
 
FFS, half of these posts look like they'e been copied from readers' comments at the Daily Hate. Any of you who live in Brixton ought to know what bullies the police here can be. You should be able to imagine any number of scenarios that might cause 30 people to riot over what may appear at first to be a trivial issue.

You're all joking, aren't you?


Sadly most of them aren't.
 
FFS, half of these posts look like they'e been copied from readers' comments at the Daily Hate. Any of you who live in Brixton ought to know what bullies the police here can be. You should be able to imagine any number of scenarios that might cause 30 people to riot over what may appear at first to be a trivial issue.

You're all joking, aren't you?

But in the same sense - anyone who has lived in Croydon ought to know what fucking trash the chavs who live there can be.

And don't start on that whole underclass crap - it's not a class issue, no matter what the fuckwit Fabians say.

The chav scum have a completely different moral code to regular people, chav lads wouldn't think twice about punching a girl in the face, for example.

'Genuine social phenomenon'

Tony Thorne, a language consultant for Kings College London, said people who were called chavs actually used the word themselves.

"It is part of today's vocabulary, whether we like it or not," he said.

The word had originally been used by travellers to mean "friend", he added.

Its modern meaning became widely used in 2004, although it had been used in certain areas such as Essex and Kent for some time.

Mr Thorne said: "What chav seems to me to mean is an aggressive, self-assured, unashamedly materialistic person. I don't think 'chavs' are an innocent group of victims.

"We're dealing with a genuine social phenomenon.

"Chav is like 'skinhead' - it describes a type of behaviour and appearance that's very identifiable."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7509968.stm
 
FFS, half of these posts look like they'e been copied from readers' comments at the Daily Hate. Any of you who live in Brixton ought to know what bullies the police here can be. You should be able to imagine any number of scenarios that might cause 30 people to riot over what may appear at first to be a trivial issue.

Yah. Even if it's not that, there must be something going on, you don't just get 30 people beating up a pair of coppers for no reason.

I notice that on the radio though it's already being labelled as "police officers attacked by teenagers", despite the fact that the two people mentioned as having been arrested were in their 30s. So we can expect more shite about feral teens etc then.
 
On the bus yesterday morning, driver tells a teenage schoolgirl to get off as she didn't have an oyster to touch in with,. Girl kicks off starts shouting at the driver that she's gonna slap his face and all that. Fuck being a bus driver when that's the shit you get for doing your job :(

Kids these days, no respect!! :mad:;):D

Assuming this was in London, you, I and the bus driver know that she is entitled to free bus travel so what is the big deal? Yes, an inspector could get on and ask all passengers to present their pass but as she is evidently in SCHOOL UNIFORM & of SCHOOL AGE & on her way to SCHOOL, I am sure the driver could have been a bit more understanding of her plight. She could be waiting for her form to be processed or left it on the dining table!

Haven't you ever left home without your travelcard :confused:

This is why whenever I witness this I pay the pittance required to let the young person continue on their journey. How quick we forget that we were young once.

Adults these days. No empathy .
 
London and the South East?

As if a gang of 30 people attacking coppers isn't a story that will interest everyone in the country?
 
Assuming this was in London, you, I and the bus driver know that she is entitled to free bus travel so what is the big deal? Yes, an inspector could get on and ask all passengers to present their pass but as she is evidently in SCHOOL UNIFORM & of SCHOOL AGE & on her way to SCHOOL, I am sure the driver could have been a bit more understanding of her plight. She could be waiting for her form to be processed or left it on the dining table!

Haven't you ever left home without your travelcard :confused:

This is why whenever I witness this I pay the pittance required to let the young person continue on their journey. How quick we forget that we were young once.

Adults these days. No empathy .
Are you actually defending the behaviour described? Oyster or not/ school unifrom or not, why should she threaten to slap the driver? Is that ok by you?

Its not ok for this girl to resolve issues by threatening people. It's wrong.
 
Assuming this was in London, you, I and the bus driver know that she is entitled to free bus travel so what is the big deal? Yes, an inspector could get on and ask all passengers to present their pass but as she is evidently in SCHOOL UNIFORM & of SCHOOL AGE & on her way to SCHOOL, I am sure the driver could have been a bit more understanding of her plight. She could be waiting for her form to be processed or left it on the dining table!

Haven't you ever left home without your travelcard :confused:

This is why whenever I witness this I pay the pittance required to let the young person continue on their journey. How quick we forget that we were young once.

Adults these days. No empathy .
It is possible that she had her free Oystercard revoked for some reason so the bus driver was only doing his job. As Melinda said, whatever the reasons she was asked to leave the bus, it doesn't excuse her threatening behaviour.
 
Haven't you ever left home without your travelcard :confused:
She wouldn't have forgotten her phone, or her mp3 player, or anything else she wanted. Generally, someone who would respond by saying she'll slap you in the face is already looking for opportunities for confrontation. No different with droppping litter in front of police, and then dropping it a second time.
 
Er...its not actually a made up word though..:confused:

No, but its basically bollocks and anyone who uses it should be given a 5 year jail term for being stupid enough to think I give a shit about some scruffy teenager who hasn't had their first set of spots, let alone a fuck.

It also implies some kind of unspoken honour system that doesn't exist outside said Hollywood wank-fantasy...
 
On the bus yesterday morning, driver tells a teenage schoolgirl to get off as she didn't have an oyster to touch in with,. Girl kicks off starts shouting at the driver that she's gonna slap his face and all that. Fuck being a bus driver when that's the shit you get for doing your job :(

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Yup thats the sort of shit my dad had to put up with on a daily basis, being spat at and all sorts, thank fuck he moved to Dorset:)

30 people on to two, coppers or not, fucking cowardly bastards:mad:
 
Some of us live in the real world and not some nice little dream-park...


What is it that makes your world more real than mine, exactly?

In list form, if you could. I'd like to know what I'm missing out on.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7513416.stm

over litter? i wonder if up to 30 people were really so incensed that a girl was asked to pick up litter that they laid into some coppers, or if there is more to it than that. perhaps one should ask why it is that in a large london satellite town antipathy towards the police is so great that this sort of thing happens? heavy-handed policing? social alienation? something in the water?


there will be a bit more I would have thought - tho Im not familair with the area that much

Maybe / likely the coppers were heavy handed - mos of them are twats anyway,. but at the age of 30+, you would think a bit of level headedness would come into it - getting arrested over some youth dumping her shite on the street - It does show a rubbish level of common sense amongest the nicked - its not exactly storming the Winter Palace in terms of political activism

respect for the coppers ? I cant ever go for that Im afraid , but I have a beef with people who dump their shite all over the place with no consieration for their environment they/we have to live in

Um
 
Translation: The girl was ticked off and told not to do it again. :rolleyes:
No wonder there's nowt regard for others nowdays. She should've been locked in the cells for a day or so at the least to cool off. :mad:

Awaits arrival of liberal brigade to tell me how that would be a police-state if we treated criminals like criminals... :rolleyes:

No, you get bail pending possible charges.
 
Croydon is terrible, I don't think I have ever been anywhere else where you see so much violence just walking around in your everyday life, its just constant.

The people here are just rude, obnoxious, everyone is looking for a fight all the time and they kick off at the slightest little thing. You basically can't walk down the street with out someone starting. That never happens anywhere else in the UK ever. I just don't understand it. Everywhere else is friendly, kittens playing in the street and everyone says hello to each other and asks how your family is, under a shining sun with rainbows in the sky.
 
We really have reached rock bottom, at least in Croydon.

We need to have the kind of society where no-one would ever dream of dropping litter. Where if someone accidentally dropped some, someone else would immediately and without a second thought pick it up and hand it back to them, to the embarrassed thanks and apologies of the recipient.

A society where people genuinely fear the consequences of littering might be a useful intermediate step on the way.
 
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