ChrisFilter
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S.Norwood not the world's best for night buses.. one, maybe two.
24 hour trains to East Croydon though, then a ficer in a cab.
24 hour trains to East Croydon though, then a ficer in a cab.
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ChrisFilter
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Norwood Junction is South Norwood.
Years ago it was called Jolly Sailor station... how great would coming home to that be?!
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
It's not on your list but Brockley/Crofton Park/Honor Oak Park seem to fit your criteria:
http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/articles/blog-nick-barron.jsp
http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/articles/blog-nick-barron.jsp
ChrisFilter
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As an aside, good choice with SE london... byfar my favourite bit.
kittyP
Pluviophile
This is not a very rational opinion but places like Brockley and Honor Oak seem a lot more suburban than Gipsy/Forest hill etc.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
How do you mean?
Forest Hill is a lot more suburban than the northern end of Brockley IMO.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Getting more popular. Know a few who have moved over that way from Brixton. Some of the twats even refer to it as Dulwich.
Callie
Pivoting
I don't remember it ever being called that! lol just looked it up...no wonder i don't remember - it was called that circa 1839
Or how about Camberwell? - Good commute into central London from Denmark Hill station (trains to London Bridge, Blackfriars and Victoria - journey time generally less than 10 mins) and loads of buses and night buses (20-30 mins into centre). Also if you live on the Brixton side of Camberwell its a 10-15 walk to Brixton/Oval tube and also Loughborough Junction station. Area has several good pubs and restaurants and 'arty' type vibe (due to art college and galleries) and housing is relatively cheap
hipipol
Peckham Wry
The "centre" of Camberwell is a cross roads surrounded by Alkies - I lived there for a year or so but the pound shop/person ratio is too high really.....
Big up Honour Oak, Peckham, Nunhead etc as human and lovely
The only really decent bit of camberwell is where it blends into Peckham - the hill leading down to Bellenden Road - lived on the Peckham side of Bellenden for 5 years, twas tops - though got banned from the wishing well quiz night cos we won too often!!!
Will admit the eatieries on Lordship lane are better than Peckham, but its just a short stroll away.........
Big up Honour Oak, Peckham, Nunhead etc as human and lovely
The only really decent bit of camberwell is where it blends into Peckham - the hill leading down to Bellenden Road - lived on the Peckham side of Bellenden for 5 years, twas tops - though got banned from the wishing well quiz night cos we won too often!!!
Will admit the eatieries on Lordship lane are better than Peckham, but its just a short stroll away.........
hipipol
Peckham Wry
Its a bit dull though aint it?
Looks like Finchley somehow fell over the river......
Its got great transport links, the conservation area looks nice and there used to be a big party scene (dont know if there still is)
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
I'd agree with you. Except that I've never discovered the party scene.
(probably far too old!)
Brockley has a few really good bars/restaurants - makes up for quantity with quality. It's quiet off the main road and has lots of green space. I wouldn't call it dull by any means but despite what the article I linked to infers, it isn't like Haight Ashbury in the 1960s!
Now Catford. I don't think it's as bad as some people make out, but that is dull. If there is a decent place to go out in Catford (we live fairly near), I've missed it.
I lived on Hilly fields for a while/ Brockley - its nice, but a bit dead, cos its a conservation area, theres nowt on your doorstep really - Le Croix Nuveau or Le Wisham are nearest and not exactly a glam night out (but OK for piss artistry I suppose ) - I had to choose between ED & Brockley & sadly, ED won - the shops & bars in ED all those years ago were much more convenient & varied
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
I can't decide if I like ED or if it is like Clapham without the Common and the three tube stations........
'kin 'ell zoltan - Brockley must have REALLY livened up if you had to go to Lewisham for a night out!
Agree centre is dominated by the crossroads but it does have good restaurants and pubs on the main street and just off it and it is on the way up - at least one of the Somerfields is going to be sold and the former Woolworths apparently has been surveyed for a new purchaser. The area between Camberwell New Road and Coldharbour Lane is pleasant and well connected for Kennington, Brixton and central London.
Crystal Palace, definitely. Blackheath is way too expensive. Gipsy Hill is alright but, as has been said, you've got to hike up the hill if you want to go anywhere, living at the top is infinitely preferable
But it depends what you want to do- Crystal Palace isn't exactly awesome for nigh life, reasonable pubs and restaurants but nothing in the way of clubbing, and only very rare live music (or maybe never these days, it's a been a while since I was there).
But it depends what you want to do- Crystal Palace isn't exactly awesome for nigh life, reasonable pubs and restaurants but nothing in the way of clubbing, and only very rare live music (or maybe never these days, it's a been a while since I was there).
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Crystal Palace, definitely. Blackheath is way too expensive. Gipsy Hill is alright but, as has been said, you've got to hike up the hill if you want to go anywhere, living at the top is infinitely preferable
It is innit. There's somedays when you're just walking along and then look down a side road and you get a nice panorama of London.
Also, in summer I find it a lot preferable to say the muggy heat of downtown Brixton.
Downside is that it'd cost £50-£100 a month more to live on the "triangle" as those estate agent types refer to it.
The most important things are: how old are you? where's your job? where do your mates live?
We left Hackney when little HackneyE9 turned up, swapping a two-bed flat for a three bed family house with gardens and garage for roughly the same money.
FH is sweet, green, hilly, leafy, nice views, ok pubs, ok restaurants, got a sainsburies, three parks and the Horniman and trains every 12 minutes to London Bridge in 12 mins. Good for young families, dull in a good way. Not Hackney, though. If you want East Berlin artists doing after-show DJ sets in a backstreet rough pub following a private view at a converted space in an old garage, you ain't going to get it in Forest Hill.
Sydenham has actually got three stations - S hill, S, and Lower S, so it depends where' you'd be. Seems dullish, though. Penge is quite nice? CP is the "summit" of London, deffo, sort of tattier and grimier than it should be considering it's great location, but I'll take that over being Hampstead-ified.
Yeah, but I reckon it might be worth the extra. If I were to move back to SE London I'd probably move to the Palace. Partly cos I grew up there and I know it, but mostly because it's actually a place in its own right, with a bit of a community feel and plentiful nightbuses home.
Of course, if I could afford it, I'd be traitor and live in Soho or something
Yeah, but I reckon it might be worth the extra. If I were to move back to SE London I'd probably move to the Palace. Partly cos I grew up there and I know it, but mostly because it's actually a place in its own right, with a bit of a community feel and plentiful nightbuses home.
Of course, if I could afford it, I'd be traitor and live in Soho or something
Here's a question for you, then. Why's CP not as "gentrified" or as "posh" as it should be? I like it the way it is, give or take a few things, but if it was in North London, it'd be a mix of Hampstead, Primrose Hill, Highgate and Islington.
Which it isn't, thank god!
No tube.
ChrisFilter
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It's getting posher by the day. It's all kinda whooshed past in the last two years. Long gone are the days when it was oddly cheap.
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
It's gentrified massively in the thirteen or fourteen years I have known it. I think the pub on the corner (opposite The Cambridge, which is an un-gentrified as you can get
) used to be a very ordinary pub - it's now a gastro-pub. Slowly things like pet shops* and old-skool florists and jewellers were replaced by the likes of coffee shops, estate agents, & expensive gift shops. It still seems to be happening at a rapid rate bearing in mind the recession.
* I think I'm wrong there and the closed pet shop is a community campaign HQ or something. But it still has its fantastic sign with the picture of the world's most miserable-looking cat.
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