Yeah those trains go milk float speed.
24 minutes innit?
Bellingham is going to get a train to Victoria - every 30 mins (insider information !)
Christ, it's only 12-15 from East Croydon and they go every 10 minutes or more.
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i lived in forest hill for years and liked it

Christ, it's only 12-15 from East Croydon and they go every 10 minutes or more.
no wai!lived in Charlton for a year or two as well and would never live in catfordshmatford
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Ever frequented The Bugle or The Swan?![]()

That's a different line. Crystal Palace et al are on some slow lines and take twice the time that it does to get into town as it does from east Croydon.
West Croydon is slow as well.
I was thinking of moving to east Croydon specifically for that reason as the trains run well late and all.
Yeah, they've got that big cat!Catford's alright!

To Blackfriars. To get to Victoria you have to change at Nunhead or Peckham Rye IIRC.dont they already go Victoria and Blackfriars?
The Bugle Horn used to be okay, a couple of years ago. My ex and I would drink in there two or three times a week, got to know some of the regulars and enjoyed it. Then for one reason and another we didn't go in for a while, and when we next did it had become a lot less nice. Nothing tangible - except that by then the smoking ban had come in - but the atmosphere had changed and it wasn't nearly as friendly.
The Swan could be a great pub, but every time I've been in there's either been a fight or my beer has had bits in it. So I avoid it.
However, if you think either of those are bad you shuld give the White Horse a go...![]()

I have been in the White Horse ( I think it was that I was thinking of when I said The Swan), it wasn't somewhere I would rush back to.
Yeah, they've got that big cat!![]()

The White Horse is on Woolwich Road, scene of this hilarious incident when I first moved down here...

The White Swan is in The Village, pretty much next to the Bugle Horn.
The White Horse is on Woolwich Road, scene of this hilarious incident when I first moved down here...
Hello,
I'm looking to move to South East London in the next couple of months but not too familiar with the area. Can anyone tell me which are the decent, safe areas and which areas to avoid? The places I'm looking at are Sydenham, Crystal Palace, Forest Hill, Gipsy Hill, Catford, Norwood and Blackheath...
Thanks
Great! Thanks for all the recommendations. I've looked at south norwood and it's very reasonable so maybe thats my best bet...
I was thinking of moving to east Croydon specifically for that reason as the trains run well late and all.
Also, there are good bits and bad bits of South Norwood. North of the station is generally a bit more well to do, but there are some ok bits south of the station. We're about 3 mins walk south of the station and it's fine - nice Victorian/Edwardian housing stock.


I don't know what happened to the Coach and Horses. It was bought by the same people who own the Royal Oak, just the other side of the railway line. They gave it a refurb, reopened it with a fair bit of publicity and then it very suddenly shut down again. It's all boarded up and forlorn now. The Royal Oak is for sale too, as is The White Swan. With some of the old East Greenwich pubs vanishing too, it's a rather sad sign of the times. Okay, so many of them weren't pubs I'd choose to drink in, but it's a shame they're gone all the same.
I know what you mean about the knucklehead contingent in there, though. Tbh a lot of Charlton pubs give that impression, and one reason I used to like the Bugle Horn was that it usually didn't.
Not the Royal Oak down from The Standard?
What's Norwood like for night buses?
I've come to think that connections are everything, especially late at night. There's nothing worse than freezing your arse off at 3am in the pouring rain, waiting for a bus that only runs every half hour or so.
If I stay in London after April I'll be moving out of Charlton, but wherever I go I shall be trying to keep the big advantage I have here - two 24-hour bus routes out of central London within a few minutes' walk from home.
No, the one on Charlton Lane, just the other side of the level crossing from Woolwich Road.


Sorry I am a bit pissed and generally quite confused.

What's Norwood like for night buses?
Charlton Lane, Charlton Church Lane, Charlton Way, Charlton Road, Charlton Park Road ... all within half a mile or so of each other. I can see why you're confused!![]()
