South African: Striking Miners Killed as Police Open Fire

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  1. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    Lonmin urged to do more to help workers after Marikana massacre
     
  2. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    Wrong again, Idris:

    Marikana Massacre: Police absolve 87 of their own | Daily Maverick

    Shouldn't be surprised.

    Meanwhile, one of Mandela's granddaughters say she is so sickened by the current situation that she's not going to vote ANC anymore:

    I will not vote ANC anymore - Mandela's eldest granddaughter

    One of her reasons is this scandal:

    The roots of the current crisis in South Africa

    "Over the last few weeks it has come to light that South Africa’s Social Security Agency (SASSA) has no idea how it will pay 17 million social (welfare) grants to around 11 million South Africans on April 1. This has understandably caused some concern,"

    You don't say.
     
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  3. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

  4. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    Cheers Idris. Are there any potential names in the ANC around which the anti-Zuma movement is crystallising around?
     
  5. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    Cyril Ramaphosa is the big name that I would consider as a likely anti-Zuma.

    But Zuma's ex, Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma is in the running as well. If she wins, Zumaism will carry on, I think.

    The families of the Marikana dead want nothing to do with either of them:

    'Go Away': Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma Chased Away From Marikana
     
  6. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    Nothing new to report, just spotted a mention on the twitter machine about Daily Show host Trevor Noah doing a bit about Marikana in one of his TV specials. Not very edifying.

     
  7. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    Christ.
    Well it's a perfect example of why liberalism needs to destroyed.
     
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  8. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    Breaking news on twitter is that it's Cyril for the top spot.
     
  9. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    Official now.
     
  10. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Banned Banned

    Cyril can only be a huge improvement on Zuma.

    Africa has been poorly served by the likes of Zuma and Mugabe.

    Is there now a glimmer of hope for a brighter African future?
     
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  11. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby The end is meh

    That's over 50 different countries you're lumping intogether. Zuma and Mugabe are hardly representative. Be more specific.
     
  12. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    He can't do that. That would mean knowing more than he does.
     
  13. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Banned Banned

    Maybe you'd like to enlighten us with some African economic and political success stories, Krtek.

    As you say, you have over 50 countries to choose from.
     
  14. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby The end is meh

    No, I insist. Be more specific. The burden of proof is on you, Larry.
     
  15. Poi E

    Poi E Pessimism: a valuable protection against quackery.

    Thank fuck most were colonised or they would be in an even worse state.
     
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  16. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Banned Banned

    They certainly would.
     
  17. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby The end is meh

    India, Ireland, Kenya, Palestine all benefited from colonisation/being run by Britain, did they?
     
  18. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Banned Banned

    You need to get some help with that hatred of all things British, krytek.
     
  19. Poi E

    Poi E Pessimism: a valuable protection against quackery.

    Why? On the wane as a professed national identity, anyway.
     
  20. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby The end is meh

    It's krtek and despising colonisation and empire does not make a person anti-British. Unless you see those 2 things as defining your identity?
     
  21. Poi E

    Poi E Pessimism: a valuable protection against quackery.

    Fuck it Larry I'm pretty vehementally anti-British, but then I'm from the colonies and saw what the cunts got up to.
     
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  22. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Banned Banned

    You're entitled to your opinion, Poi E. I spent much of my schooling in Malawi, whilst my Dad had a contract with the government there. I have also lived in Singapore. I found that the people of both places had a great deal of respect for the British. Unfortunately, like many African countries, Malawi has progressed little, if at all, since independence, whilst Singapore has progressed in leaps and bounds due mainly to the discipline and work ethic of its people, but also due to the infrastructure left behind by the British.

    I think you'll find that most British people who worked in the colonies built roads, railways, schools and other infrastructure, educated the locals, introduced the rule of law and provided medical facilities.
     
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  23. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Sums up the childishness and poverty of your worldview Larry if you think the difference in post-colonial trajectory between a city-state entrepot on major shipping lanes and a largely rural landlocked state is all down to the work ethic of the people.
     
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  24. Happy Larry

    Happy Larry Banned Banned

    JimW : I was comparing a small state with zero natural resources, a large population relative to its size, hardly any farmland but good economic management, which even imported its own water, to one with a large lake, abundant and fertile land but with a poorly managed economy.

    You really don't need to dislike the Singaporeans merely because they have worked wonders with their postage stamp size country, whilst the UK, has according to many left-wingers, gone backwards during the same period.
     
  25. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby The end is meh

    Jesus Christ. The benefits of colonialism being espoused on urban without hardly a peep. Respect to the honourable exceptions, of course.
     
  26. Poi E

    Poi E Pessimism: a valuable protection against quackery.

    Happy Larry, you are an apologist for the crime of colonialism and an amoral person. Sadly, through my extended family across South Africa, Australia and New Zealand, I'm familiar with your type; bitter chit-chat over sundowners about how pandering to the natives has done no good, the fucking rose tinted specs on to a childhood filled with laughter, sunshine and watermelon smiles etc.
     
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  27. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

  28. Poi E

    Poi E Pessimism: a valuable protection against quackery.

    ANC in working class betrayal shocker.
     
  29. Poi E

    Poi E Pessimism: a valuable protection against quackery.

    And Zuma has gone. What will the next billionaire president do?
     

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