Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by audiotech, Aug 16, 2012.
So how are the RIC relevant to this discussion or to your reference to Bloody Sunday 1972?
i was thinking of the brazen way the murders were carried out recently, and the possibility - not unknown - that, like the ric, the south african police had been told that they would not face charges arising from the use of force.
and this odd vague thought followed just after mentioning Bloody Sunday?
stop embarrassing yourself and just admit you made a mistake.
it followed mentioning bloody sunday because the post was in response to someone questioning whether police would be so brutal in front of cameras. as i have said, yes they would and - the thought i had behind the second paragraph - there is of course a precedent for a police force to be advised that it will not be prosecuted for killing people.
you're the only person who seems in any way exercised about this, and for - as far as i can see - no good reason
I'm doing a Jimmy Hill chinny at the moment.
good for you.
Oh this just gets better
What the fuck???
One can picture a beanbag-filled playroom at NSY full of Met wonks all frantically filling up flipcharts with blue skies ideas and freeflow imagineering based on this sort of cynical shit.
Did they ever repeal the "common purpose" laws the Sharpeville six were charged under?
Common purpose can only apply if some miners had killed a policeman or two. Then you could charge others with murder under common purpose.
It's used when, for example, two people break into a house, one kills the occupant, but they both get done for murder.
Common victimhood is not a concept recognised by law or decency.
Some sick prosecutor must have been dropped on his head at birth to come up with that claptrap.
Please read this:
"It is becoming clear to this reporter that heavily armed police hunted down and killed the miners in cold blood. A minority were killed in the filmed event where police claim they acted in self-defence. The rest was murder on a massive scale."
I dont know what to say.
Short on time but just read this, by the photojournalist Greg Maranovich. Apologies if it has been posted already - very much worth the read:
Workers arrested at South Africa's Marikana mine have been charged in court with the murder of 34 of their colleagues shot by police.
I don't know what to say.....
ETA the headline
Something is very, very wrong in South Africa.
They did not repeal many of the Apartheid era laws as they are useful for any Capitalist government. Political progress in South Africa is limited to being able to be beaten or shot by a black policeman/soldier. When you have a revolution, you need to know when to stop pushing. They stopped far too soon.
Success is not measured by the presence of a black middle class. When the foot is on your throat, knowing the colour of the man is the same as you is no comfort at all.
ergo if it can be shown that one pig murdered, then they all did.
shocking that this law is still in place, more than shocking that it has been used
This is very tough to swallow - over 20 years since the end of Apartheid and SA takes a giant step backwards by dragging up an archaic, oppressive law indelibly linked with the Apartheid era, which was historically implemented to oppress black people.... Now reimplemented to... Oppress working class black people.
Not only does the SA state seemingly support the murder of its citizens - it's actually audacious enough to attempt to transfer the blood from its hands to the hands of those associated with the slain. Wow.
The mind truly fucking boggles.
It certainly is a wtf moment.
From the BBC website.
South African prosecutors say murder charges against the 270 arrested Lonmin miners will be provisionally dropped
In return for what, I wonder.
Indeed, my first thought was what, if any, is the pay off?!
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