South African: Striking Miners Killed as Police Open Fire

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by audiotech, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. revol68

    revol68 what, fucking what?

    So how are the RIC relevant to this discussion or to your reference to Bloody Sunday 1972?
  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    i was thinking of the brazen way the murders were carried out recently, and the possibility - not unknown - that, like the ric, the south african police had been told that they would not face charges arising from the use of force.
  3. revol68

    revol68 what, fucking what?

    and this odd vague thought followed just after mentioning Bloody Sunday?

    stop embarrassing yourself and just admit you made a mistake.
  4. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    it followed mentioning bloody sunday because the post was in response to someone questioning whether police would be so brutal in front of cameras. as i have said, yes they would and - the thought i had behind the second paragraph - there is of course a precedent for a police force to be advised that it will not be prosecuted for killing people.

    you're the only person who seems in any way exercised about this, and for - as far as i can see - no good reason
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  5. revol68

    revol68 what, fucking what?

    I'm doing a Jimmy Hill chinny at the moment.
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  6. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    good for you.
  7. dylans

    dylans overlord of all acorns

    Oh this just gets better
  8. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    What the fuck??? :(
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  9. DaveCinzano


    One can picture a beanbag-filled playroom at NSY full of Met wonks all frantically filling up flipcharts with blue skies ideas and freeflow imagineering based on this sort of cynical shit.
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  10. Idris2002

    Idris2002 Christmas eve, you know?

    Did they ever repeal the "common purpose" laws the Sharpeville six were charged under?
  11. frogwoman

    frogwoman лягушкая женщина

  12. Limejuice

    Limejuice Well-Known Member

    Common purpose can only apply if some miners had killed a policeman or two. Then you could charge others with murder under common purpose.

    It's used when, for example, two people break into a house, one kills the occupant, but they both get done for murder.

    Common victimhood is not a concept recognised by law or decency.

    Some sick prosecutor must have been dropped on his head at birth to come up with that claptrap.
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  13. theCIA

    theCIA Lady Gaga's greatest hits

  14. Barking_Mad

    Barking_Mad Non sibi sed omnibus

    Short on time but just read this, by the photojournalist Greg Maranovich. Apologies if it has been posted already - very much worth the read:

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  15. souljacker

    souljacker A bit of skullduggery

  16. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    Fucking hell :(
  17. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    Something is very, very wrong in South Africa. :(
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  18. cesare

    cesare don't mourn, organise!

  19. TopCat

    TopCat Gone away, no forwarding address

    They did not repeal many of the Apartheid era laws as they are useful for any Capitalist government. Political progress in South Africa is limited to being able to be beaten or shot by a black policeman/soldier. When you have a revolution, you need to know when to stop pushing. They stopped far too soon.

    Success is not measured by the presence of a black middle class. When the foot is on your throat, knowing the colour of the man is the same as you is no comfort at all.
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  20. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Free the Sepsis Six!

    ergo if it can be shown that one pig murdered, then they all did.

  21. frogwoman

    frogwoman лягушкая женщина

    well said
  22. where to

    where to Well-Known Member

  23. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Not what they want but what is good for them

    shocking that this law is still in place, more than shocking that it has been used
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  24. shifting gears

    shifting gears Well-Known Member

    This is very tough to swallow - over 20 years since the end of Apartheid and SA takes a giant step backwards by dragging up an archaic, oppressive law indelibly linked with the Apartheid era, which was historically implemented to oppress black people.... Now reimplemented to... Oppress working class black people.

    Not only does the SA state seemingly support the murder of its citizens - it's actually audacious enough to attempt to transfer the blood from its hands to the hands of those associated with the slain. Wow.

    The mind truly fucking boggles.
  25. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    It certainly is a wtf moment.
  26. Captain Hurrah

    Captain Hurrah STALINIST Banned

  27. Fedayn

    Fedayn Well-Known Member

    From the BBC website.

    South African prosecutors say murder charges against the 270 arrested Lonmin miners will be provisionally dropped
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  28. cesare

    cesare don't mourn, organise!

    In return for what, I wonder.
  29. Fedayn

    Fedayn Well-Known Member

    Indeed, my first thought was what, if any, is the pay off?!
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  30. theCIA

    theCIA Lady Gaga's greatest hits

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