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Souness sacked!

Does Newcastle have any other central defenders? I'm enquiring as I watched the lads D'Allessandro, Mendes and Routledge play for Pompey last night and but for Boltons trademark 'solid defence' or '14 stone bruno n'gotty falls over at a nudge from a 5'4" argentinian' as it's also know, we'd have had the ball in the net a lot sooner.

Then I saw the Boumsong and Bramble show against Citeh. Oh dear ;)
 
Three things have crossed my mind:

1. Why does Newcastle United always blame its managers for its failings? The club always seems too keen to dismiss a manager when things aren't going well.

2. Why did the club hire Souness in the first place? His man management skills are lacking.

3. Why is Freddie Shepherd still in charge?
 
Three things have crossed my mind:

1. Why does Newcastle United always blame its managers for its failings? The club always seems too keen to dismiss a manager when things aren't going well. becasue the managers tend to be shit.

2. Why did the club hire Souness in the first place? His man management skills are lacking. because he was a 'hardman' to sort out the dressing room

3. Why is Freddie Shepherd still in charge? because he virtually owns the place
 
RenegadeDog said:
At least O'Dreary did have one spell of success, in taking Leeds from being a mid-table club to the Champions League semis. Souness on the other hand has achived pretty much nothing.
Souey may not be that great but that's a bit unfair. As a manager he's won the FA Cup, Worthington Cup, promotion to the Premiership and won something out in Turkey (can't remember what or who with and can't be arsed to check it). O'Dreary has won nothing at all.
 
Just running some general numbers through my head...

Routledge v Babayaro
D'Allessandro v Ramage
Todorov v Boumsong
Karadas/Benjani v Bramble

:( Oh dear.
 
nino_savatte said:
Three things have crossed my mind:

1. Why does Newcastle United always blame its managers for its failings? The club always seems too keen to dismiss a manager when things aren't going well.

Tis delusion...the club and it's 'fans' seem to think they have some divine right to be winning stuff, quite where this notion comes from is anyones guess..... methinks it was a couple of FA cup final defeats and a capitulation in the title race about 10 years ago.

Here's to Roy evans making a come back, him, Pleat or Venglos...the sooner they get relegated and their fat fans go back to whatever it was they were doing before they got promoted the better :)
 
sacking bobby was a mistake in my book, we probably wouldn't have won anything that season if he had stayed in charge, but it wasn't an emergency like this

the same fans singing bobby out before he got sacked were no doubt the ones singin bring back bobby the last few months :rolleyes:
 
mrkikiet said:
Three things have crossed my mind:

1. Why does Newcastle United always blame its managers for its failings? The club always seems too keen to dismiss a manager when things aren't going well. becasue the managers tend to be shit.

2. Why did the club hire Souness in the first place? His man management skills are lacking. because he was a 'hardman' to sort out the dressing room

3. Why is Freddie Shepherd still in charge? because he virtually owns the place

Okay

Your reply to my first point says to me that the board are rubbish and they'd hire a pony if it looked as though it had the requisite skills...why didn't they?

Souness may have a reputation as a "hard man" in the dressing room but he is deficient in other areas. his spell at Liverpool being a case in point.

Shepherd, iirc, is part of the auld crew that used to run the club when that other wanker was chairman...I should know his name...John summat...who was a big admirer of Thatcher.
 
Ninjaboy said:
sacking bobby was a mistake in my book, we probably wouldn't have won anything that season if he had stayed in charge, but it wasn't an emergency like this

the same fans singing bobby out before he got sacked were no doubt the ones singin bring back bobby the last few months :rolleyes:


It was a mistake but this is the sort of thing the club is prone to: knee jerk reactions.
 
Dr. Furface said:
Souey may not be that great but that's a bit unfair. As a manager he's won the FA Cup, Worthington Cup, promotion to the Premiership and won something out in Turkey (can't remember what or who with and can't be arsed to check it). O'Dreary has won nothing at all.

How many managers in the premier league have won anything? Not that many.
 
nino_savatte said:
Shepherd, iirc, is part of the auld crew that used to run the club when that other wanker was chairman...I should know his name...John summat...who was a big admirer of Thatcher.

john hall wasn't it, he's still a shareholder isn't he, along with his son, douglas hall?
 
DRINK? said:
Tis delusion...the club and it's 'fans' seem to think they have some divine right to be winning stuff, quite where this notion comes from is anyones guess..... methinks it was a couple of FA cup final defeats and a capitulation in the title race about 10 years ago.

Here's to Roy evans making a come back, him, Pleat or Venglos...the sooner they get relegated and their fat fans go back to whatever it was they were doing before they got promoted the better :)

Newcastle have always been the "nearly men" of English football. They desperately want to be a 'glamour' side but never quite pull it off...like when they bought some Brazilian that no one had ever heard of in the 80's...Mirandinho, I think his name was...they even brewed a special beer in his honour.
 
nino_savatte said:
Newcastle have always been the "nearly men" of English football. They desperately want to be a 'glamour' side but never quite pull it off...like when they bought some Brazilian that no one had ever heard of in the 80's...Mirandinho, I think his name was...they even brewed a special beer in his honour.
Marcelinho?
 
Dr. Furface said:
Marcelinho?

No, it was definitely Mirandinho because I remember drinking the commemorative ale in a dreary pub in Gallowgate.

He was referred to as "Wor Mirra" by the Evening Chronicle.
 
nino_savatte said:
It was a mistake but this is the sort of thing the club is prone to: knee jerk reactions.

the board is fucking atrocious, shepperd is the one who gets all the stick, but the hall dynasty has more power in the club

having said that, they do give managers a lot of money for transfers
 
nino_savatte said:
No, it was definitely Mirandinho because I remember drinking the commemorative ale in a dreary pub in Gallowgate.

He was referred to as "Wor Mirra" by the Evening Chronicle.


We've got Mirandinha
He's not from Argentina
He's from Brazil
He's fucking brill.

:D
 
Ninjaboy said:
the board is fucking atrocious, shepperd is the one who gets all the stick, but the hall dynasty has more power in the club

having said that, they do give managers a lot of money for transfers

Hall is a thoroughly nasty piece of work. I can remember all his claims of how he was a "working class lad made good". It was obvious that once he'd built the Metrocentre and finished off the Northern version of Glyndbourne that he was going to get his grubby mitts on Newcastle United.
 
marty21 said:
keegan's free isn't he? time for a third coming? :D

It wouldn't surprise me if the board invited him back...but they'll try and find someone with a Portuguese name, so they can have some sort of vicarious connection with success. :D
 
I think it's time Newcastle stopped tried to get "big names" and went for a vaguely competent manager. Paul Jewell would be excellent but there's not a reason in the world why he'd leave Wigan right now.
 
Ding Dong the Scot is gone :cool: :D

Still, feel strangely disheartened :( Can't help thinking of things going round and round in a downwards direction...
 
i reckon jewell and sam, although their clubs are doing better than us this year, would be tempted by the big transfer budget. a good manager at newcastle couldn't win the prem, but UEFA cup or FA cup aren't unrealistic

and fucking liverpool won the champions league with about the same budget as us
 
Ninjaboy said:
i reckon jewell and sam, although their clubs are doing better than us this year, would be tempted by the big transfer budget. a good manager at newcastle couldn't win the prem, but UEFA cup or FA cup aren't unrealistic

and fucking liverpool won the champions league with about the same budget as us

I think you're probably right .... both Jewell and Allardyce (and Curbishley as well, while we're at it) might be very tempted by the job, since they've taken their respective clubs about as far as they can go.

I have a soft spot for Newcastle; I hope that their fortunes change. But making Shearer a manager instantly would be a mistake.
 
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