Sony 11-inch VAIO TT notebook - world's lightest Blu-ray laptop

[EastEnder]

I think it's perfectly reasonable to highlight the fact that this machine is - going by the pricetag - attempting to chip away at the Mac market for powerful laptops.

I think that the editor and your good self are doing a fine job of disproving that! Given how polarised many (most?) people are when it comes to the tedious Mac'v'PC debate, I find it doubtful there'd be all that many people who, when looking to shell out big bucks on a high end lappy, would be vacillating between a Mac & a PC. I would imagine that most of them would already be firmly in one camp or the other - in which case this Sony isn't really competing with Macs, it's competing with other high end PC laptops.

 

[tarannau]

Why don't you just admit that your anti Apple-bias is getting a little painful now and that your 'usefulness' rant was both unnecessary and out of keeping with the rest of a good tempered thread?

Fair enough?

 

[editor]

I think that the editor and your good self are doing a fine job of disproving that! Given how polarised many (most?) people are when it comes to the tedious Mac'v'PC debate, I find it doubtful there'd be all that many people who, when looking to shell out big bucks on a high end lappy, would be vacillating between a Mac & a PC. I would imagine that most of them would already be firmly in one camp or the other - in which case this Sony isn't really competing with Macs, it's competing with other high end PC laptops.

Exactly. Which is why I asked pk to stop banging on about Macs way back in post #21. And then tarranau joined in to tell us that the Sony laptop might be "flimsy" but that the Air was the "perfect portable machine" for some.

Why don't you just admit that your anti Apple-bias is getting a little painful now and that your 'usefulness' rant was both unnecessary and out of keeping with the rest of a good tempered thread?

So, about these "hyperbolic inaccuracies." Have you found any yet?

Oh, and I've been good tempered all along. If anyone, it's you that's been getting all uppity.

 

[tarannau]

For reference here's what I actually said:

It wasn't designed to be a workhorse, more a frippery for people with more money than you and I. I feel much the same about the Sony here - it's a cracking technological achievement, but it's not a machine I'd choose for the buck. I can't help feeling that I'd rather get a cheap netbook and something else with a bit more grunt and a proper size keyboard/screen

Which prompted that bizarre, nonsensical rant about 'usefulness' and calling people who chose one ultraportable over another 'daft' and obsessed with 'style over substance'

As you were

 

[editor]

For reference here's what I actually...said:

So, no 'hyperbolic inaccuracies' from me at all then, but just an opinion you disagreed with, oh, and the bit you got wrong about the lack of wireless broadband.

Glad that's all cleared up.

Perhaps we can get back to discussing the Windows laptop which, as far as I can see, isn't 'flimsy' in the slightest.

 

[Crispy]

Who can say without picking one up?

 

[Iam]

I would buy it as an additional system on my company if it was trustworthy enough to be able to stream HD-SDI into a 30TB Raid via eStata ports on the ExpressCard.

How much of that sentence do you really understand?

 

[Xanadu]

The last model of that range felt solid. Obviously, not Thinkpad solid, but solid nonetheless.

 

[editor]

Who can say without picking one up?

By that reckoning, it could be made of jelly and wobbly blancmange too, although I tend to draw on my own experiences and the plentiful reviews of previous high end Sony laptops, all of which say it'll be anything but 'flimsy.'

 

[pk]

How much of that sentence do you really understand?

LOL fair play.

It's irrelevant nerdspeak, and I have been speaking it all week.

In a nutshell, its a 40,000GB hard drive designed to take in live telly in a HDTV format straight off the cameras.
Plus sound too, if I'm feeling kinky.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

By that reckoning, it could be made of jelly and wobbly blancmange too, although I tend to draw on my own experiences and the plentiful reviews of previous high end Sony laptops, all of which say it'll be anything but 'flimsy.'

Yeah, the Sony UMPCs that I've come into contact with have had a good solid feel to them - which I think is an important part of making that sort of high-end item. It sounds a bit crap, but the physical feel of a laptop when you hold it and move it around is just as important as the look of the case or the feel of the keyboard. My Eee, conversely, does feel pretty plasticky, though it's not as bad as you might imagine.

There's also the fact that the designs pack a lot of components into a small space and those need protecting from random bashes, so the machines are intrinsically going to have to be dense and solid.

Apple do this as well. The Air may feel ridiculously light, but it's... a solid kind of light, and MBPs definitely feel like they're hardcore.

 

[pk]

Sony are the Apple of the PC market, all their stuff bar one or two crap concepts (DRM Ports, LOL!) are intelligent and tough.

And in spite of their PC market, they still give cursory nods to Apple, with iPod docks for their Home Entertainment systems and suchlike.

Sony know their market, and deliver consistantly the products that people want.

If only they had joined forces with Apple when they had the chance, in the pre-iPod years, life would be so much sweeter...

 

[pk]

Anyway, Blu-Ray schmu-ray, even if on pain of death I was forced to buy a PC, I'd still buy an Intel Mac and boot Windoze off it...

 

[editor]

Anyway, Blu-Ray schmu-ray, even if on pain of death I was forced to buy a PC, I'd still buy an Intel Mac and boot Windoze off it...

Zzzzz. Give it a rest, for fuck's sake mate.

 

[EastEnder]

Anyway, Blu-Ray schmu-ray, even if on pain of death I was forced to buy a PC, I'd still buy an Intel Mac and boot Windoze off it...

Admirable obstinance, but aren't you just nullifying your own position? Your premise appears to be that there are no conceivable circumstances, even theoretically, under which you'd opt for a PC in favour of a Mac.

Such an unequivocal stance makes discussion rather pointless. It could be argued that comparable intransigence is the reason why sensible debate between the religious and atheist doctrines is equally pointless.....

 

[pk]

Admirable obstinance, but aren't you just nullifying your own position? Your premise appears to be that there are no conceivable circumstances, even theoretically, under which you'd opt for a PC in favour of a Mac.

Such an unequivocal stance makes discussion rather pointless. It could be argued that comparable intransigence is the reason why sensible debate between the religious and atheist doctrines is equally pointless.....

It could be that Windows just pisses me off, and it's fine for people who have the time and patience to fuck about with it to get it working properly.

 

[EastEnder]

It could be that Windows just pisses me off, and it's fine for people who have the time and patience to fuck about with it to get it working properly.

Better the devil you know...

I use a Windows based PC & a Mac at work, the Mac annoys me at times by trying to be too clever and abstracting away so much that it makes it a challenge to fix when it gets things wrong. Windows crashes all the time but is easy to fix. For anything remotely mission critical, I use Linux...