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How exactly does that make Morrissey racist?
Oh, it doesn't.
Um ok, well im not allowed to quote the actual publication where he was quoted making what (to me anyway) sound like racist comments. The fact that hes currently enjoying a bit of hero-worship amongst racists/facist networks speaks volumes IMO.
Can u edit your post? Ive edited mine.
So you don't think - just for a minute, like
- that right wing organisations keen to drum up support and apparent approval might jump on any such claims about a celebrities comments, no matter how unfounded they might be? 
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/tim_jonze/2007/11/tim_jonze.html
Follow-up piece by the journalist (were u living under a rock when this came out?)
don't need to - i broke the link.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
IIRC, he clearly made racist comments
"Although I don't have anything against people from other countries, the higher the influx into England the more the British identity disappears. So the price is enormous.
"If you travel to Germany, it's still absolutely Germany. If you travel to Sweden, it still has a Swedish identity.
"But travel to England and you have no idea where you are"
"England's been thrown away"
"These days you won't hear a British
accent in Knightsbridge"
"Although I don't have anything against people from other countries, the higher the influx into England the more the British identity disappears. So the price is enormous.
"If you travel to Germany, it's still absolutely Germany. If you travel to Sweden, it still has a Swedish identity.
"But travel to England and you have no idea where you are"
"England's been thrown away"
"These days you won't hear a British
accent in Knightsbridge"
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
You require 666 to win.
ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY
*screaming noise in an Irish accent*
It's nationalist. You can't deny it's that
along with comments such as "of course people should be allowed the freedom to live where they want" (summink like that anyway, it's from memory)
foo
dirtysweet
Jonz - "What's clear, though, is this: the "I've been stitched up" card is the last bastion of someone who's said something offensive but is too scared to back this up, yet too stubborn to apologise. How can Morrissey possibly claim a stich up when the interview is printed in Q&A form, his quotes are recorded on tape and he wasn't even asked about immigration in the first place? It's truly cowardly. If Morrissey holds these opinions he should either be sticking to his guns and standing by them or - more honorably - educating himself on race issues, realising why his comments were both offensive and inflamatory, and apologising for them as quickly as is humanly possible"
nah, i wasn't under a rock but i'd only got up to the bit where Jonz said he wanted his name taken off the piece - so thought they were probably mis-quoting Morrissey. but it seems the Q&A were typed verbatum....
tbh, no. i don't like what he said at all. and yes, if anyone else had said what he did, they'd probably be vilified on here. it does smack of nationalism to me....or little englander mentality. views i don't share with him.
nah, i wasn't under a rock
but i'd only got up to the bit where Jonz said he wanted his name taken off the piece - so thought they were probably mis-quoting Morrissey. but it seems the Q&A were typed verbatum....tbh, no. i don't like what he said at all. and yes, if anyone else had said what he did, they'd probably be vilified on here. it does smack of nationalism to me....or little englander mentality. views i don't share with him.
Looby
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Jonz - "What's clear, though, is this: the "I've been stitched up" card is the last bastion of someone who's said something offensive but is too scared to back this up, yet too stubborn to apologise. How can Morrissey possibly claim a stich up when the interview is printed in Q&A form, his quotes are recorded on tape and he wasn't even asked about immigration in the first place? It's truly cowardly. If Morrissey holds these opinions he should either be sticking to his guns and standing by them or - more honorably - educating himself on race issues, realising why his comments were both offensive and inflamatory, and apologising for them as quickly as is humanly possible"
nah, i wasn't under a rock
tbh, no. i don't like what he said at all. and yes, if anyone else had said what he did, they'd probably be vilified on here. it does smack of nationalism to me....or little englander mentality. views i don't share with him.
I don't share the views either but I still don't believe he is racist.
foo
dirtysweet
there's a very thin and fragile line between little englanders and racists in my experience....
foo
dirtysweet
There can be, but it's not always the case, so you'd be guilty of stereotyping or generalising if you leapt to that conclusion. And stereotypes lead to.....
true. and duly noted.
let's just say his stated views make me a leetle bit wary of him then.
tbh, anyone saying what he has - it's to be expected people will think he might be a racist.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
I dunno - there's definitely the whiff of Enoch about it
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
foo
dirtysweet
yup.
and yes, OU, i definitely agree about the stupid sunglasses. one of Bono's worst offences i reckon.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
117 posts in and no mention of Paul Mccuntney?!?
I'm genuinely shocked
The thing about McCartney is is that he really has no business being mentioned in the music forum and t5his is now the official line by order of Bluestreak...read more here: http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=239781
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