Discussion in 'education & employment' started by temphelpplease, Jan 31, 2018.
yup all the same as before
If you have an IP address then that can be traced surely?
Most situations in which you are likely to send an email somebody might want to trace -- playing a prank on a friend, for example -- are unlikely to be of interest to law enforcement. You should, however, be aware that law enforcement and government agencies have the ability to request user information from both Google and ISPs, and can force them to reveal such information through subpoenas, court orders or search warrants."
Can a Gmail Account Be Traced?
Yeah but if they know what they’re doing they’ll have opened an account specifically for the task and sent it from behind a proxy in an Internet cafe in Panama.
Maybe the direct approach is needed then?
Show the emails to all office colleagues and watch their reactions. It may not stop them but it might give you an inkling of who is the culprit
I think outside legle advice is a good idea if hr aren't being helpful. Your employer has a duty of care to you in work, and if something is going on there,they should be looking into it.
Company changes from Gmail to an alternative...one that is monitored inside the company.
This needs to be viewed as a whole staff issue. It could very well happen others.
I would be pushing for openness and transparency about the handling of all of this.
I'm hoping that they will proceed to a court order next, if i have to call the police in that might make them be more serious about it
It's really horrible that this is even a thing, I just can't get over it that someone would do this
People can be scum.
In a rush right now so can’t expand too much but do not call the police from work yourself; you have to get security or someone authorised to do so to do it - unless the law has changed. That used to be a sackable offence.
What? It can't possibly be a sackable offence to phone the police from work. If you suspect a crime has been committed you have every right to phone the police.
temphelpplease if you are in a union they may be able to help you. They should at least be able to assist you with HR.
That is definitely not the case. Anyone can call the police.
Possibly you are thinking of it being policy to call an internal number in an emergency so that site security can coordinate with the fire brigade in a properly defined way or whatever, and also because you expose your employer to charges of wasting the services' time, but again you can phone 999 if you need to.
I'm glad you said that..I was wondering why it would be a sackable offence.
A court order to who? Who is going to be served an order if nobody knows who is sending the emails?
It is a horrible thing to happen I agree.
I used to work in Child & Families Social Work at a hospital (2003-8 so regulation might have changed since then). We were not allowed to call the police on a client or a colleague due to confidentiality - sounds mad, I know, but that was a sackable offence.
It would have to be a court order to google to get the original IP, and then the ISP of the sender.
How bad was the email? Death threats or something?
That's the specifics of confidentiality of that role, and if mental health risk-related stuff now is anything to go by, probably not the case any more either
I've called the law at work before now. Not on a colleague, admittedly, but in an emergency I've done it a few times. I work in social housing and I've had people threaten suicide / set their flat on fire etc.
PippinTook I think your suggested courses of action are risky, unlikely to succeed and will quite possibly just make things worse
Stick with going through appropriate authorities for now, temphelpplease. Hang in there, and keep posting, lots of support here for you
It’s also possible that it isn’t someone who works with you at all. It’s someone who has a grudge though, clearly.
All of them???
I suggested legal action.
I also suggested the company could change from using gmail to a work email system that could be monitored.
I also suggested transparency and letting colleagues know what's going on.
Ok...maybe posting the offensive email on the office board is a step too far for some...but if all else fails...?
But I did contribute more than one suggestion.
If you call the police, don't dial 999. It's not an emergency.
I'd call the police for what its worth. They take malicious electronic stuff a lot more seriously these days
How about replying with "fuck you, coward. Meet me in the car park at 5:30 for fistycuffs"
I think the OP said that the email came from a gmail address, to their work address.
Not that they use gmail at work...
Or publish the address here to increase the volume of fan mail.
Keep every bit of evidence you have, document it. Have a timeline to all that's occured. Also make a written note on all the people you've approached on this matter, include dates, times, responses etc.
Then inform your manager(s) and HR that unless steps are taken NOW to address the problem, you will be seeking outside legal advice forthwith. State to them,you'll give them a few days to respond. Be focused, firm and resilient. Good luck.
It‘s this kind of shit that enabled Saville.
ETA: Lazy Llama ?
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