Somalia - 13 year old girl stoned to death after reporting she was raped
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Wait! Islam is a religion of "Love and Peace." I ALMOST forgot.
Canuck: A "Dhimmi" is an Arabic word , describing and Islamic theolgical classification referring to "People of the Book," Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians or Sabeans depending on who is interpreting the third word.
Dhimmi are above "Kaffir" which are "Infidels" per se. What do Dhimmi get for this elevated status? Well, they are allowed to live, IF they pay a very high tax, are not allowed to vote, testify in court, ride when Muslims are walking, live in an abode higher than the lowest Muslim house, and so on. Then there are other attributes given regionally depending on the ruler.
Dhimmi are above "Kaffir" which are "Infidels" per se. What do Dhimmi get for this elevated status? Well, they are allowed to live, IF they pay a very high tax, are not allowed to vote, testify in court, ride when Muslims are walking, live in an abode higher than the lowest Muslim house, and so on. Then there are other attributes given regionally depending on the ruler.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
No religion is about "peace and love"; not even Judaism.
True indeed but then Jews have never said that theirs is. Many Muslims on the other hand.
I am member of the religion/People that exterminated Amalek and many other Peoples. We are a People of War, and I make no excuses for that. One must live in the world at large. My point is the hypocrisy expressed in Islam.
I am member of the religion/People that exterminated Amalek and many other Peoples. We are a People of War, and I make no excuses for that. One must live in the world at large. My point is the hypocrisy expressed in Islam.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Stop talking shite. Your thesis has been scuppered..perhaps you have forgotten Meir Kahane?
JHE
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Was Old Mo, the so-called prophet, an "extremist pillock"?
Here are some relevant hadiths: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/stoning.htm
Nino: I would suggest you actually study Kahane, as well as the Jewish faith Nino. How was Kahane hypocritical? You are not making sense. A man who preached Jewish strength, in the Jewish religion which is geared towards the concept. How do you find this to be hypocritical?
Islam and Christianity both try and sell themselves as peaceful faiths when neither one could be further from the truth, ESPECIALLY Islam. Judaisim tells it like it is.
Amalek was genocide, and G-D commanded us to do it as the belief goes. WE are commanded to act in a fair fashion, but it is not about "love and peace," at least to non-Jews. We believe in come uppance. Treat a Jew fair and he will be 2 times as fair. Treat him unfairly and justice CAN be exacted according to the faith. IT is not often talked about in this manner because non-Jews are not believed to have the foundation to understand this in the proper context...as I am sure you will prove Nino when you respond.
As for the poster who claimed only a few extremist Muslims would support stoning to death, they need to read Sura 4. I will not talk about the other usual references though because people should already have studied this if they talk about it.
Islam and Christianity both try and sell themselves as peaceful faiths when neither one could be further from the truth, ESPECIALLY Islam. Judaisim tells it like it is.
Amalek was genocide, and G-D commanded us to do it as the belief goes. WE are commanded to act in a fair fashion, but it is not about "love and peace," at least to non-Jews. We believe in come uppance. Treat a Jew fair and he will be 2 times as fair. Treat him unfairly and justice CAN be exacted according to the faith. IT is not often talked about in this manner because non-Jews are not believed to have the foundation to understand this in the proper context...as I am sure you will prove Nino when you respond.
As for the poster who claimed only a few extremist Muslims would support stoning to death, they need to read Sura 4. I will not talk about the other usual references though because people should already have studied this if they talk about it.
Louloubelle
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Don't be such an arse
All the Muslims I know would be appalled and horrified by this terrible murder and would in no way consider it Islamic
Another news report here
http://ny.metro.us/metro/local/article/Reports_Victim_of_rape_buried_stoned/14206.html
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Excuses, excuses. Kahanists (KACH) are racist scum. They are hardly peace-loving, embrace humanity types. You're one of them, so you should know.
Then there's Baruch Goldstein...care to comment?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
KACH: an organisation dedicated to peace (according to R18).
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/kach.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/kach.htm
scifisam
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The Bible also supports stoning to death, and the Torah. But we're not talking just about the old books, we're talking about the modern people, and most of them would not support stoning to death. I'm not sure the Bible, the Torah or the Koran would have explicitly supported the stoning to death of a rape victim, anyway.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Nino: Ahhh, true to form old boy. Actually young boy, VERY, VERY young boy but I will not go near THAT. Listen, who said KACH is about "love and peace?" I actually said nothing like that. READ my words, NOT READ INTO THEM.
Also, chappie you know I am not a member of KACH. KACH does not even exist now. I am a member of Kadima which is a Centrist Party.
Scifisam: True, the Torah allows stoning but NEVER a rape victim. WE are liable to be executed for even hitting a woman of any caliber. Women murderers, and adulterers would be executed but this has not been done for many hundreds of years.
In Islam though...Reminds me of the case in Nigeria where the single woman was impregnated by a man she liked, was sentenced to death while he did not even have to pay a fine! Or the woman in Iran last spring executed for living with a man with whome she had 3 teenaged kids!!! Shar'ia allows children to be executed as well which is also VERY disturbing.
DrCarnage: Who is the blue eyed due crying over the cloud?
Also, chappie you know I am not a member of KACH. KACH does not even exist now. I am a member of Kadima which is a Centrist Party.
Scifisam: True, the Torah allows stoning but NEVER a rape victim. WE are liable to be executed for even hitting a woman of any caliber. Women murderers, and adulterers would be executed but this has not been done for many hundreds of years.
In Islam though...Reminds me of the case in Nigeria where the single woman was impregnated by a man she liked, was sentenced to death while he did not even have to pay a fine! Or the woman in Iran last spring executed for living with a man with whome she had 3 teenaged kids!!! Shar'ia allows children to be executed as well which is also VERY disturbing.
DrCarnage: Who is the blue eyed due crying over the cloud?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
KACH may not exist but the sentiment remains.
Chew on that, spinmeister.
Chew on that, spinmeister.
scifisam
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The Koran doesn't specifically say 'stone rape victims,' either. This girl was accused of adultery, and stoned for that. The religious principle behind it exists in Christianity and Judaism too - it's just that these guys were using their religion as an excuse to be sadistic bastards.
There's not "loads" of news out of Somalia - it's the most dangerous place on the planet, bar none. Check out the FCO website. Way above Iraq or Afghanistan, it bans all travel to Somalia. It's so lawless there are around 60,000 Mogadishians (?) just living next to the road out of the capital, 'cos it's too dangerous in there. There are, afaik, no western journalists at all in the country. It's a proper full-on failed state.
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