grit
an ugly force for good
Then you shouldnt be working in IT.
solid state hard drives -yeah / nay?
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Then you shouldnt be working in IT.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Why not?
grit
an ugly force for good
Compatibility between it and MS Office. The basics are good enough but any more advanced formatting tools just get lost.
grit
an ugly force for good
Because he is advising a user to do something thats
a) illegal
b) compromises the security of the machine.
Beanburger
Deep Fried
Plus Outlook syncing functionality can be kinda essential, depending on your nees.
Beanburger
Deep Fried
grit
an ugly force for good
Gosh. Really?
That's nowhere near a certainty.
So your willing to gamble that the piece of software your using to perform something illegal isint going to cause other issues?
The company's MD/CEO will have a different view regarding the legal implications.
Beanburger
Deep Fried
Yes. Because I know what I'm doing and am capable of assessing the risk accurately.
That would largely depend on the size of the company, wouldn't it?
You're not using it properly. It isn't MS Office dont use it like it.
grit
an ugly force for good
So you took a HEX editor to a compiled binary and went step by step through it so you know exactly what it does?
Not really even if your a 3 person startup you should have licenses for all software you use.
grit
an ugly force for good
I'll attempt to parse your constructive and well thought out argument. Your main points seem to be that
Pirating software is legal and no one minds.
Company directors should not be concerned that they are breaking the law in how they conduct their business.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot.
Beanburger
Deep Fried
grit
an ugly force for good
No, I have a firewall, and I understand how it works.
What's "should" got to do with it?
What if it just tunnels through http,ssh or smtp? Firewall wont stop that.
I dont understand your "should" question. In summary your legally obliged to pay for commercial software that you use.
Beanburger
Deep Fried
Erm... well if Outlook started opening http connections, I'd be a little alarmed. And if it opened an smtp connection to an IP that wasn't my smtp server, I'd be a little alarmed.
Yeah, and I'm legally obliged not to smoke a spliff at xmas.
grit
an ugly force for good
You really underestimate the creativity that's used in some exploits. Would you be alarmed if a browser opened a http connection?
Your spliff comparison is ridiculous. It can be pretty trivial for microsoft to identify bogey license keys. There is already instances of them stopping OS updates if pirated versions of their apps are detected. Consuming weed in the privacy of your own home isint comparable to hiding pirated software to a hands on audit or automatic detection.
grit
an ugly force for good
This, is the reason that people dont like it.
Open Office? OPEN Office?
grit
an ugly force for good
No of course not, im referring to someone here posting that they work in a IT dept and encouraged a user to pirate MS Office.
Edited to add: Its you!
Beanburger
Deep Fried
I would if it wasn't a browser that I used. Given that my browser can't be compromised, because my firewall prevents applications from modifying other applications without explicit permission, then I don't see how this scenario is going to fly. I also log all activity, and if there's any kind of activity taking place when there shouldn't be, I'd know about it.
You were citing the rule of law as sufficient reason for not using pirate software. Either you support the rule of law unequivocally, or you don't.
Boczkowski
has 'deleted his account'
I've been interested in, but never been able to afford/warrant the expense.
I was looking into using a CF card based Hard Drive a while back
get a couplke of 32gb CF cards
and the 2x CF card adapter from these guys and away one goes
looked good to me and cheaper than buying a 60gb SSD off the shelf, depending on the brand of the CF cards, plus you could move the CF cards around different machines if you so wished....could be useful if you set one up to store OS and apps and the other for data
I was looking into using a CF card based Hard Drive a while back
get a couplke of 32gb CF cards
and the 2x CF card adapter from these guys and away one goes
looked good to me and cheaper than buying a 60gb SSD off the shelf, depending on the brand of the CF cards, plus you could move the CF cards around different machines if you so wished....could be useful if you set one up to store OS and apps and the other for data
free spirit
more tea vicar?
hmm, well they're now trying to get me to ok a £50 cheaper HP/Compaq.
problem being 4.5 hour max battery life vs 8 hour on the acer, plus while they may have a slightly faster processor, they have a 5400 rpm hard drive vs 7200 rpm for the acer, less and slower RAM, and less cache memory, which to my mind means that they'd be quite a bit slower at start up, opening programmes, opening and saving large files etc. which is the bit that I want to be as fast as possible for the price.
hmm
problem being 4.5 hour max battery life vs 8 hour on the acer, plus while they may have a slightly faster processor, they have a 5400 rpm hard drive vs 7200 rpm for the acer, less and slower RAM, and less cache memory, which to my mind means that they'd be quite a bit slower at start up, opening programmes, opening and saving large files etc. which is the bit that I want to be as fast as possible for the price.
hmm
grit
an ugly force for good
LOL
(whats this unhackable browser?)*sigh* I'm not really concerned with the morality/legality of the act in this discussion. The point that I'm making is that there can be damaging impact on you and your employer by using pirated software in the workplace. Its something that can be detected easily and just frankly is not worth the risk.
No of course not, im referring to someone here posting that they work in a IT dept and encouraged a user to pirate MS Office.
Edited to add: Its you!
No, I encouraged someone to install OO you plonker.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
I guess it depends on if its for a work machine or a home one. For a work one its daft, but for a home machine, well I've got a lot of software from mates who work in IT.
grit
an ugly force for good
Read back through the thread, go on I'll wait. You quoted me saying that a member of IT suggesting that a user should pirate should get a slap. You quoted a post regarding the use of a pirate copy of MS Office.
Beanburger
Deep Fried
Don't quote selectively. As I said, my firewall prevents changes being made to one app by another app unless explicitly allowed.LOL
Fairy snuff. But you were the one going on about the legality.
I agree in many instances. However, for small business getting by on a shoestring, it may well be worth the (very minimal) risk. Business take all kinds of risks in order to survive, by which standards, the risk of using unlicensed software is actually rather small.
Boczkowski
has 'deleted his account'
is this kind of thing going to be a concern in Yorkshire? or on public transport?
what are you going to be using it for anyway?
why the need for speed?
grit
an ugly force for good
Nah mate bollocks to that
you made a statement that your browser couldn't be comprimised, if your a geek you know how much of a loaded comment that is.Yeah a small company could probably get away with it, but it should be acknowledged as what it is, a gamble that could blow up in your face.
Edited to add a smiley
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
Your firewall does this?
Firewalls operate at the network level. Changes to apps would occur on disk.
Unless this is a software firewall on the PC that has some other software components that check your disk (which isn't a function of a firewall).
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