Sofia Gardens to Host the Ashes

[JTG]

The team should be called England and Wales/Britain whatever, by default, and they should also use welsh symbols and england symbols to be a truly representative team. This is the point being made, and nowhere in this thread has there been any racism.

Well it shouldn't be called Britain given that the team does not represent Scotland.

And I'd have thought that having the team play home fixtures in Wales is a pretty huge step towards acknowledging they represent both countries. Give us a chance, a lot of people over here have only just noticed we have our own flag distinct from the Union Flag!

Eventually I think they'll be called England & Wales, at least officially, especially given that the board is called the England & Wales cricket board. As I say, playing home games in Cardiff is progress.

 

[Brockway]

Well it shouldn't be called Britain given that the team does not represent Scotland.

And I'd have thought that having the team play home fixtures in Wales is a pretty huge step towards acknowledging they represent both countries. Give us a chance, a lot of people over here have only just noticed we have our own flag distinct from the Union Flag!

Eventually I think they'll be called England & Wales, at least officially, especially given that the board is called the England & Wales cricket board. As I say, playing home games in Cardiff is progress.

I hate being called "& Wales" it gets on my cock. I'm not into cricket but am warming to the idea of it being played at Sophia Gardens because everyone seems to be getting really upset about it. Can we have the Henley Regatta on the Taff as well please? And Wimbledon at Hailey Park? Bring it on.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Whoops - you haven't seen the word association then ( runs for cover )

You aint kiddin.......

Wait till you drive past me next time

 

[Karac]

Well it shouldn't be called Britain given that the team does not represent Scotland.

And I'd have thought that having the team play home fixtures in Wales is a pretty huge step towards acknowledging they represent both countries. Give us a chance, a lot of people over here have only just noticed we have our own flag distinct from the Union Flag!

Eventually I think they'll be called England & Wales, at least officially, especially given that the board is called the England & Wales cricket board. As I say, playing home games in Cardiff is progress.

Thats because the Scots have more sense.The Scots have their own cricket team (crap mind) but still have their own team.

I really dont understand why Wales dont have their own team-why do a couple of players sell their souls for the England team?
When i read an interview with Simon Jones he said something like "Playing for Glamorgan was like playing for Wales and playing for England was like playing for Britain" or some shite.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

as far as i can make out its just you and the Colonel that find me rude, whereas i find you rude. I dont see anyone else taking offence. Oh yeah, as i said earlier you two do seem to think its your community!

I think thats unfair to say that bout col and ddraig......

They dont think they run the forum...........

But they have gone to alot of effort to give it a kick up the arse and make it a bit ,ore exciting of late....

As has everybody who has contributed, even yourself, so just get your cock back in your pants and have a crunchie....FFS Its Friday.....

 

[JTG]

Thats because the Scots have more sense.The Scots have their own cricket team (crap mind) but still have their own team.

I really dont understand why Wales dont have their own team-why do a couple of players sell their souls for the England team?
When i read an interview with Simon Jones he said something like "Playing for Glamorgan was like playing for Wales and playing for England was like playing for Britain" or some shite.

Well just maybe the Welsh would like to have a stake in the real thing - Test cricket - rather than hope they qualify for the mickey mouse charade of the world cup every four years?

Glamorgan are a part of the first class structure in this country, why should Wales be excluded from Test cricket?

I can really see Simon Jones, Robert Croft etc turning their noses up at playing at the very top level of their sport

 

[Karac]

Well just maybe the Welsh would like to have a stake in the real thing - Test cricket - rather than hope they qualify for the mickey mouse charade of the world cup every four years?

Glamorgan are a part of the first class structure in this country, why should Wales be excluded from Test cricket?

I can really see Simon Jones, Robert Croft etc turning their noses up at playing at the very top level of their sport

Crickets a load of crap anyway-but id prefer it if a Welsh team had a chance to prove there worth rather than a few mercenaries propping up England.

England have been head in their fans hands embarrasingly rubbish for decades ,now theyre suddenly "top level".

I really worry about the mentality of someone like Simon Jones who is happy to wrap himself in the George Cross.

If the Cricket World cup is a Mickey Mouse affair then that says it all about cricket .
Come on every knows that most English cricket fans are ignorant,racist,boorish hoorah henrys.

 

[JTG]

No point in debating with someone so pig ignorant about the game then is there?

Fuck off gobshite

 

[JTG]

England have been head in their fans hands embarrasingly rubbish for decades ,now theyre suddenly "top level".

By top level I mean Test cricket, something only ten nations actually compete at.

You really are ignorant aren't you?

 

[Karac]

By top level I mean Test cricket, something only ten nations actually compete at.

You really are ignorant aren't you?

Not that ignorant that id watch cricket.

 

[JTG]

OK so I have time on my hands so what the hell:

Crickets a load of crap anyway-but id prefer it if a Welsh team had a chance to prove there worth rather than a few mercenaries propping up England.

First mistake. Admitting your ignorance of the game's beauty immediately makes your views on it of little relevance really. But how dare you call those Welsh players who have played Test cricket mercenaries? They are dedicated sportsmen who have reached the very top of their profession by playing the most mentally demanding game there is - five day Test cricket. Wales should be (and mostly is) proud of them.

England have been head in their fans hands embarrasingly rubbish for decades ,now theyre suddenly "top level".

Not really no, you're just believing the tabloid hype there. As I said already, the 'Top Level' I refer to is Test cricket, the top level of the sport.

I really worry about the mentality of someone like Simon Jones who is happy to wrap himself in the George Cross.

Well I worry about the mentality of someone so bigoted they produce this kind of moronic bile when one of their fellow countrymen shows pride in representing his country and their neighbours. Yes, the team he plays for does represent Wales, it always has done.

If the Cricket World cup is a Mickey Mouse affair then that says it all about cricket .

One day cricket is a Mickey Mouse affair imho yes. This is why being cricket world cup winners will never be as important as being top dogs in the Test game. Winning the Ashes back last year was worth any number of world cups. An independent Wales team would be at the level of Scotland, Ireland, Holland, Namibia and co, only able to compete in associate tournaments for the right to get thrashed by the big boys in the world cup and with no hope of ever playing Test cricket - the real game.

Come on every knows that most English cricket fans are ignorant,racist,boorish hoorah henrys.

This comment is beneath contempt frankly and prompted my outburst above.

Ask most Welsh cricket fans whether they'd rather be an international irrelevance or stand alongside England and compete at the very highest level against Australia, India, Pakistan and South Africa and I tell you, your arguments would be laughed out of town.

Plenty of Welsh on tour with England - flying their flag and cheering on their team. Very welcome they are too.

 

[JTG]

Not that ignorant that id watch cricket.

so stop commenting on something you know sweet FA about knobhead

 

[Karac]

By top level I mean Test cricket, something only ten nations actually compete at.

Well that says it all-Crickets a god-awful boring game (its a game not a sport -you dont have tea and cucumber sandwich breaks during a sport) that nobody watches.

 

[JTG]

Well that says it all-Crickets a god-awful boring game (its a game not a sport -you dont have tea and cucumber sandwich breaks during a sport) that nobody watches.

fucking shite troll aren't you?

One that knows sod all about cricket as well if you reckon that's true.

Why do you care so much about how Wales is represented if you hate it so much?

Go to India and claim nobody watches it. 1 billion Indians can't be wrong.

 

[Karac]

Come on -cop yerself on -you know for a fact that cricket is only played by upper middle class Englishmen and a few ex-colonies.

 

[JTG]

 

[Karac]

Back to boarding school eh?

 

[JTG]

Back to boarding school eh?

Try learning to sustain a proper argument. You know, making intelligent points, responding to arguments. That sort of thing.

 

[Karac]

Try learning to sustain a proper argument. You know, making intelligent points, responding to arguments. That sort of thing.

Why?
Your an insane racist ex-public school boy.

 

[JTG]

Why?
Your an insane racist ex-public school boy.

And you're a fuckwit

 

[Dai Sheep]

Well it shouldn't be called Britain given that the team does not represent Scotland.

And I'd have thought that having the team play home fixtures in Wales is a pretty huge step towards acknowledging they represent both countries. Give us a chance, a lot of people over here have only just noticed we have our own flag distinct from the Union Flag!

Eventually I think they'll be called England & Wales, at least officially, especially given that the board is called the England & Wales cricket board. As I say, playing home games in Cardiff is progress.

Nevermind Scotland, it [the England cricket team] dosent truly represent Wales either even if it is the spawn of the 'england and wales cricket board' . It shouldnt have to be a huge step towards acknowledgement either. They either accept the team represents the two countries or they dont.

As far as I'm concerned I would rather support a crap Wales team, than a good England team. I'm Welsh not 'English and Welsh'. This post is not intended to be anti-English before anyone says, it's about representing your country. If those 'Welsh' players would rather play for England then bollocks to them. They are in a position to wield some sort of influence if they really want to start the ball rolling.

 

[Karac]

Im a fuckwit-and you watch cricket?

 

[JTG]

Deny it?

Deny that you're a fuckwit you mean?

 

[JTG]

Nevermind Scotland, it [the England cricket team] dosent truly represent Wales either even if it is the spawn of the 'england and wales cricket board' . It shouldnt have to be a huge step towards acknowledgement either. They either accept the team represents the two countries or they dont.

As far as I'm concerned I would rather support a crap Wales team, than a good England team. I'm Welsh not 'English and Welsh'. This post is not intended to be anti-English before anyone says, it's about representing your country. If those 'Welsh' players would rather play for England then bollocks to them. They are in a position to wield some sort of influence if they really want to start the ball rolling.

Edit: sorry thought you were Karac

Anyway's it does represent England & Wales. Just saying it doesn't don't make it any less true.

 

[Karac]

Deny that you're a fuckwit you mean?

Hallucinating now?

 

[JTG]

Hallucinating now?

Yeah?

I'd get some sleep then mate, probably just tired or summat.

 

[Karac]

At this point in the discussion it might be pertinent to ask if JTG is Welsh or English.
Whats the answer?

 

[JTG]

Not relevant.

I'm right, you're wrong. As evidenced by the fact that Welsh players are eligible for England, therefore the England cricket team represents Wales.

Nutter.

 

[Karac]

Not relevant.

I'm right, you're wrong. As evidenced by the fact that Welsh players are eligible for England, therefore the England cricket team represents Wales.

Nutter.

It doesnt.
AFAIK the last time Wales played England at cricket-Wales won.

 

[JTG]

Sorry, what does a friendly warm up novelty game which had no official status for the purposes of statistical records have to do with it?

When it matters, the team is selected from a pool of English and Welsh players and supported by English and Welsh people.

Which bit of this can't you understand?