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So which are these 30 airlines that are going to go bust

What a kind-hearted gesture, how nice of him to warn us in advance so we can make sure that any trips we book are booked with reputable airlines like, er, BA...

The big tour opertors are doing it as well and of course they are bastards.

But objectively, BA is going to be around along with Lufthansa and Air France / KLM. Wouldn't put any money on any other airlines.

Air France is branching out into being a rail operator as well by the way.....
 
I love it that with Alitalia it's the pilots and stewardesses who rejected a deal that could potentially have saved the company - protesting on a 'Be unemployed rather than xxx' basis.
 
A tough choice to make, they rejected the "deal" becasue Berlusconni had snatched away a better one that was previously on offer. The latest "rescue" was never meant to happen anyway, the company was earmarked for asset stripping.
 
Unlikely, they made £193 million pre-tax profits last year.

Losing money in 2008 though - they definitely look better-placed than many to see out the downturn but I reckon a big drop in demand for air travel would hit them pretty hard - they expanded very far very rapidly and have something like 100 planes on order.
 
Yeah, because only rich people should be able to take holidays or to travel and see the world and meet new people, learn about different countries and cultures... :rolleyes:

That's the way it was when I was a kid. Then flying got cheaper and everyone could afford it. Now the pendulum swings and we are going back to where we started.
 
So Willie Walsh, the chief exec of BA, is warning people that 30 smaller airlines (the type of airlines that have been reducing BA's passenger numbers and market share) are going to go under in the next few months...

What a kind-hearted gesture, how nice of him to warn us in advance so we can make sure that any trips we book are booked with reputable airlines like, er, BA...

There will be more airlines going under but I wouldn't trust a single thing uttered by BA, the only sad thing is it's not going to be them that go bankrupt.

It's certainly a cynical thing for Walsh to say, but it's no more than you'd expect, it is?

Tbh I don't have a problem with BA. I've flown with them several times and they've always been fine.
 
To say that the demise of shitbucket airlines like XL means that the world will return to the 1950s is rubbish - what it means is the true cost of flying might start to be reflected in ticket price, and people who would use a cheap flight for a weekend break won't be doing so. No bad thing.


But then there's a bit of a difference between people who might take a cheap flight a couple of times a year to visit relatives in Europe and those that fly every weekend because they live in the South of France and commute to the UK every week. They're the ones who should be slated, not some Eastern European going home to visit relatives a couple of times a year
 
What's that got to do with artichokes in Belarus? Europe is perfectly well served by trains (most of which will actually take you to the town you want to go, as opposed to dropping you off 30 or 40 miles away at some dirt-strip of an airport that O'Leary has managed to con some subsidy out of the local government about.

Here's a simple thing. There is no 'right' to flying, and compared with many other things, it's actually cheaper now than it was in the 1950s, and you'd have to increase economy priced seats to over £2k for the London-New York run to make them comparable. Long time before that happens, and in the meantime, there's no great loss in the number of short flights being reduced.
 
What's that got to do with artichokes in Belarus? Europe is perfectly well served by trains (most of which will actually take you to the town you want to go, as opposed to dropping you off 30 or 40 miles away at some dirt-strip of an airport that O'Leary has managed to con some subsidy out of the local government about.

Here's a simple thing. There is no 'right' to flying, and compared with many other things, it's actually cheaper now than it was in the 1950s, and you'd have to increase economy priced seats to over £2k for the London-New York run to make them comparable. Long time before that happens, and in the meantime, there's no great loss in the number of short flights being reduced.


There aren't trains to Ireland :p
 
There are a number of ferries tho, and they've been perfectly servicable for people travelling to and fro cross the Irish sea for decades.


Yes, if you have nearly a full day to spend. Last time I went by ferry it took 21 hours to get from Victoria to Shannon
 
Europe is perfectly well served by trains (most of which will actually take you to the town you want to go, as opposed to dropping you off 30 or 40 miles away at some dirt-strip of an airport that O'Leary has managed to con some subsidy out of the local government about.

There's no way I would travel from Bristol to Barcelona by train. It takes two hours in a plane.
 
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