I agree, I'm just saying that the capitalists would fight to the death to protect their property, as they have before.
So, where do the fundie nutters go from here?
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I agree, I'm just saying that the capitalists would fight to the death to protect their property, as they have before.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Yes, as dumb as the parties think they are. The proof is there in the pudding. The people only have two options to pick from and either one tells them it'll be okay. It just toggles back and forth between the democrats and republicans.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Palin needs to counter all the negativity that was thrown up about her during this election before she will be come more electable - it will probably require her going to the Senate to do this. Jindal has less to do (since he isnt , but is even younger than Obama and might suffer for it.
Yes, and most people don't vote for exactly that reason. I can assure you that Americans are under absolutely no illusions about their politicians. They *despise* them, all of them. Nor are they in any doubt about what would happen to any Socialist who ever looked like they had the remotest chance of achieving the tiniest bit of power.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Have you been watching this election?
dilute micro
esse quam videri
I think most people that don't vote don't because they don't feel they know enough or care enough to get involved. But why do you say they aren't under any illusions? The truth is the government is ran by corporations and interest groups. All the voters do is decide who gets to eat at the trough, who gets temporary power to use the system to get what they want.
I think there are clues in Newsweek's teaser for its behind-the-scenes election report:
It may take a fundie nutter to explain to me why a black man dancing with a lesbian was provocative - it's not as if it'd lead to misgenation, generally speaking
Now, the Republicans - what's left of them - have a problem in 2012. They can't attack in the same ways the advisers wanted to this year - because then they'd be attacking The President.
But that looks like a "go nasty" pointer for the future.
It may take a fundie nutter to explain to me why a black man dancing with a lesbian was provocative - it's not as if it'd lead to misgenation, generally speaking
Now, the Republicans - what's left of them - have a problem in 2012. They can't attack in the same ways the advisers wanted to this year - because then they'd be attacking The President.
But that looks like a "go nasty" pointer for the future.
clusterflux
Ham handed knee jerk
I would suggest the ones that thumped hardest on the Bible try reading it. Understand the ideas the synoptic gospels are talking about instead of focussing on the words used. It may be that the Carl Rove acolytes are the real problem, perhaps the reason George B looked so terrified during some of his speeches was because he was saying things he did not want to say.
I did work at a company that had a card signed by senior and junior (GB) framed on the wall (a greeting card company that printed custom greeting cards using lead linotype machines). The funny thing was that junior messed up signing the card and his father apologized in writing. Another funny fact at this business was the employment of two people who had posed for a picture posted on AOL that I had been upset at. Its a joke within a joke for a few people. I don't find it funny, but I know my brothers friends Paul and Brian will, for reasons diametrically opposed to those of anyone else who finds it amusing.
I am thinking about shame. I am guessing most conservatives would think Clinton leaving office after getting a blow job from a fluffy dumb tool to be more shameful than Bush leaving after face planting the worlds strongest free market economy. I know, spitting into the wind is not wise, but I can't help but wonder , where do Republicans scrub to get themselves clean? A smelly "apple" , well I would rather smell like a piece of .... shaving cream live soft and clean... than be a piece of....shaving cream be lean and mean. Mockery, meanness, and playing upon the fears of the slow minded may have worked once upon a time, but that time is long gone and your new tricks are exposed for all to see. America saw who was in charge of the republican party during this campaign. Credit ratings never ask questions regarding morals, they assume answers, thus capitalism staggers blindly into the future.
The funniest thing is that these pure bred christian people refuse to look into gas prices. Everyone I have talked to states very clearly that they have not cut down on their driving. Most have worked out a weekly pattern of driving that they adhere to. Yet the news media continue to tell me americans are driving less. America is at war, I would guess the news media are fully aware of the financial consequences of spreading stories that are not true, at least not backed up by a poll that can be referenced. Americans saying they drive less and Americans actually driving less are two dramatically different situations retrospectively speaking, given gas prices and the credit market. Banks stop lending money, and gas prices plummet, so the gas price spike was not the fault of speculators? Right, just another one of those coincidences.
I did work at a company that had a card signed by senior and junior (GB) framed on the wall (a greeting card company that printed custom greeting cards using lead linotype machines). The funny thing was that junior messed up signing the card and his father apologized in writing. Another funny fact at this business was the employment of two people who had posed for a picture posted on AOL that I had been upset at. Its a joke within a joke for a few people. I don't find it funny, but I know my brothers friends Paul and Brian will, for reasons diametrically opposed to those of anyone else who finds it amusing.
I am thinking about shame. I am guessing most conservatives would think Clinton leaving office after getting a blow job from a fluffy dumb tool to be more shameful than Bush leaving after face planting the worlds strongest free market economy. I know, spitting into the wind is not wise, but I can't help but wonder , where do Republicans scrub to get themselves clean? A smelly "apple" , well I would rather smell like a piece of .... shaving cream live soft and clean... than be a piece of....shaving cream be lean and mean. Mockery, meanness, and playing upon the fears of the slow minded may have worked once upon a time, but that time is long gone and your new tricks are exposed for all to see. America saw who was in charge of the republican party during this campaign. Credit ratings never ask questions regarding morals, they assume answers, thus capitalism staggers blindly into the future.
The funniest thing is that these pure bred christian people refuse to look into gas prices. Everyone I have talked to states very clearly that they have not cut down on their driving. Most have worked out a weekly pattern of driving that they adhere to. Yet the news media continue to tell me americans are driving less. America is at war, I would guess the news media are fully aware of the financial consequences of spreading stories that are not true, at least not backed up by a poll that can be referenced. Americans saying they drive less and Americans actually driving less are two dramatically different situations retrospectively speaking, given gas prices and the credit market. Banks stop lending money, and gas prices plummet, so the gas price spike was not the fault of speculators? Right, just another one of those coincidences.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
I don't think she's going to esacpe from that in a hurry. In fact,that is one albatross that she will find difficult to shed.
Not a chance. All third parties in the US have been in recent history are spoilers. Nader, Perot, Libertarians........they are nothing but jokes and a waste of time.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
What you've just said here is exactly what both republicans and democrats want you to think. It's only a waste of time because there isn't a sizable number of the public behind them. That's the key. It's not like either the dems or reps are satisfying the need otherwise. It's that people are just stuck.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
I wonder how difficult it would be for the Republicans to broaden their appeal now, as some of the saner (but still evil) ones seem to be suggesting?
As far as I can make out most of their activist base, the phone trees, voter lists and so on are all tangled up with the snake-handling racist loon faction ...
Do they actually have a grassroots apart from those fanatical freaks anymore?
As far as I can make out most of their activist base, the phone trees, voter lists and so on are all tangled up with the snake-handling racist loon faction ...
Do they actually have a grassroots apart from those fanatical freaks anymore?
dilute micro
esse quam videri
They're independents now.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I absolutely cannot vote for anyone who'd say this in response to allegations that she didn't know Africa was a continent:
"I think if there are allegations based on questions or comments that I made in debate prep about Nafta or about the continent versus the country when we talk about Africa there, then those were taken out of context and that is cruel,"
FFS, woman! Do your homework. Take a college class or something. Jesus H. Christ.
I can see someone being ignorant, but it's another matter to be willfully so.
But this is a country - you, YW live in a country - that elected representatives of the "Know-Nothing Party".
Was that the vote she was going for?
I'm afraid the Republicans may have calculated "there's a lot of stupid people out there, and they deserve representation". Very afraid, for the future.
Hmmm... www.google.com/search?q="sarah+palin"+"know-nothing+party"
...ah, yes, Bill Maher (via YouTube).
Was that the vote she was going for?
I'm afraid the Republicans may have calculated "there's a lot of stupid people out there, and they deserve representation". Very afraid, for the future.
Hmmm... www.google.com/search?q="sarah+palin"+"know-nothing+party"
...ah, yes, Bill Maher (via YouTube).
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
The original "Know Nothing" party was a description of the secretiveness of their party organization. It wasn't a rejection of knowledge itself. They were anti-immigrant/anti-Catholic. When anyone asked about the party, a member was supposed to reply "I know nothing."
(BTW, most of them did end up joining the Republican party).
(BTW, most of them did end up joining the Republican party).
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Yuwipi you don't seriously believe she doesn't know the difference do you?
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
It doesn't really matter. She either doesn't know the difference between a continent and a country, or she can't construct a coherent sentence and has talked herself into a corner. The quote above is accurate. I heard it myself. Take your pick.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Well messing up when saying something is no big deal or at least isn't on the level of not knowing whether Africa is a continent or a country. It's the high standards for republicans and lower standards for democrats thing that doesn't work for me. People love this and it's more of the same 'stupid republican' nonsense that makes bloggers and such feel so much more deserving and superior. It doesn't belong. And people shouldn't fear Palin enough to do it - she's gone. She'll not be back.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Apologizing for a gaffe with another one, doesn't bode well for a person's intelligence.
Besides, it isn't any worse for the Democrats to do that than it is for the Republicans to use the smears they do. You should hear some of the garbage I have to listen to on AM radio. Some of them have been advocating violence against anyone who disagrees.
dilute micro
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I agree with you there. Everybody has got to stop the hatred.
AM radio?
I know. The older people in my office insist on listening to Rush Limbaugh.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
They also referred to themselves as "Natives", which is only partly true: native born, yes but natives? No. They were even supported by Martin van Buren at one stage and afaik, he even stood as their Presidential candidate.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
This is funny.
Now as far as I can work out, what Obama was on about was some sort of expanded version of the Peace Corps, i.e. part-time reserve of electricians, plumbers, brickies, plasterers and sewage workers etc, focussed on rebuilding the infrastructure of any nations that the US might suddenly feel the urge to blast the shit out of, by way of mitigating the Iraq-type problems that tend to occur in those situations. Not exactly a strong indication that the US is going to restrain itself from attacking other countries during his Presidency, but hardly evidence of an impending night of the long knives as the religious nutjob quoted above seems to think.
As far as I recall the Gestapo were not renowned for the quality of their 'laying on', at least the sort that involves trowels rather than truncheons.
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Now as far as I can work out, what Obama was on about was some sort of expanded version of the Peace Corps, i.e. part-time reserve of electricians, plumbers, brickies, plasterers and sewage workers etc, focussed on rebuilding the infrastructure of any nations that the US might suddenly feel the urge to blast the shit out of, by way of mitigating the Iraq-type problems that tend to occur in those situations. Not exactly a strong indication that the US is going to restrain itself from attacking other countries during his Presidency, but hardly evidence of an impending night of the long knives as the religious nutjob quoted above seems to think.
As far as I recall the Gestapo were not renowned for the quality of their 'laying on', at least the sort that involves trowels rather than truncheons.
It appears that it's pretty hard to work out exactly what he's on about, since it seems, erm... 'fluid'.
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5852
(Yes, I know it's 'infowars', but I don't think even they would fake screenshots).
E2A... I should also add that - having had a fair bit of experience of the 'Peace Corps' - the comparison to the 'Hitler Youth' isn't all that far off the mark!
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5852
(Yes, I know it's 'infowars', but I don't think even they would fake screenshots).
E2A... I should also add that - having had a fair bit of experience of the 'Peace Corps' - the comparison to the 'Hitler Youth' isn't all that far off the mark!
Autonomous
Rise Above
Are they anarchists?
"There is a certain diabolical genius behind the division of the United States into "Red" and "Blue" factions. Each of the constituencies cattle-penned into one of those categories covets the power of the central government to compel the other to do its bidding.
By mobilizing resentments through appeals to various hot-button issues that never grow cold through resolution, the Power Elite that created this artificial division herds people into the voting booth to perform a liturgy that has no demonstrable impact on public policy, but ensures the continued "legitimacy" of the Regime."
dilute micro
esse quam videri
It's a domestic peace corps to rebuild bridges and stuff like that but yes answerable to the president from the looks of it. He's nuts. Obama will probably come up with some kind of symbol for himself next and have it displayed in every town square. Whatever anyone wants to make of him one thing is for sure - the tax payers are the ones that will pay for his big ideas. If he wants this civilian security force to be as well funded as the military, so he's said, we're in for some trouble or he's in for some failure.
turing test
Nearly Toowrong
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