So when do the fast trains to Amsterdam finally start?
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Crispy
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true. doesn't seem to be a sensible way round it, then
although, could you have a 'UK-bound' section of the train, inaccessible from the rest of the train? Make sure the 'Continental Travel' section is empty before loading other UK-bound passengers into it at the last pre-tunnel staion? (Brussells or Lille)
probably too complicated.
although, could you have a 'UK-bound' section of the train, inaccessible from the rest of the train? Make sure the 'Continental Travel' section is empty before loading other UK-bound passengers into it at the last pre-tunnel staion? (Brussells or Lille)
probably too complicated.
kyser_soze
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We booked out tickets to Aix via the Eurostar call centre, and that's where I got the above price from. They're good, and unlike DB don't charge you for trip information if you're being all hypothetical about your trip.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Make it a 4-car train? Our trip to Aix was 8 cars from Lille to Lyon, then we lost 4 cars as we headed south.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Nah, I mean have a 4 car section that is 'sealed' from LSP - AC that detaches at Lille or Bruxelles...
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Detaches from what?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Cripsy - may well have been 6 inc the tractor units, definitely 4 carriages. Was a double decker on the outbound, single on the return from AeP-Lille.
teuchter - from the other powered section of the train...
teuchter - from the other powered section of the train...
Crispy
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The rest of the train.
<oooooooooooooooooo>
goes to brussells
oooo>
detaches and heads on to amsterdam without opening the doors
oooo>
arrives in brussells from amsterdam carrying uk-bound passengers. the doors do not open
join it up with the <oooooooooooooo which has now been filled with regular eurostar passengers and
<oooooooooooooooooo
goes to london
Would require special trains, because current eurostar trains have shared bogies which means they can't be split (expcept in the middle). Also requires turn-around facilities at amsterdam so you don't drive the oooo> back to brussels blunt-end-first
You could put a <oooo on the oooo> so that you can chuck some 'domestic' passengers along for the ride to amsterdam and back and avoid turnaround. But I fear all this messing around with coupling and decoupling would take more time than a well-timetabled change of train.
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
I'm pretty sure that even the duplex (double decker) ones are 8 carriages. Travelled on one myself, just two weeks ago, which split at Lyon as you describe.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Yes, I guess that could work if you didn't open the doors of the AC portion at Brussels on the LSP->AC run (it wouldn't really matter in the other direction).
A simpler version would be to seal off the two halves of one Eurostar set from each other, put Brussels passengers in part A, Amsterdam passengers in part B. Stop in Brussels, keep the doors closed on part A. Decant the Brussels passengers from part B and replace them with Brussels-Amsterdam passengers.
No decoupling/coupling of trains required.
Same in reverse on the way back although you'd have to clear the platform of all the Amsterdam-Brussels passengers (and check that portion is empty) before letting the Brussels-London passengers onto it which would probably take as much time as a Thalys/Eurostar change of train would. At least people could stay seated though.
Crispy
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You could do a split platform access so that one half is only accesible by people who've passed through security. Would need a wide platform or other canny arrangement though. I have no idea how suitable brussells midi is.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
You still would have to totally empty and check that bit of the train before letting the security-cleared people on though.
Crispy
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Yes, but at least everything would be nice and segregated.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Well anyway we need to patent the basic concept and sell it to Eurostar.
Or the UK could just join the Schengen free movement area.
tunnel/bomb issue doesn't go away.
Teuchter and I will play tag-team on repeating this.
By the same logic we need security at London Paddington seperating passengers on trains to Wales from those who'll get off at Bristol Parkway.
Of course no international trains operate withing the schengen area via strategic bridges or tunnels at all.
Whether or not bag scanning is justified is another discussion.
Or do you mean that the bag scanning is a border control task?
If Channel Tunnel security is a reason for the UK to not join Schengen and/or to demand the seperation of passengers travelling via the tunnel then the same logically has to apply to the Severn Tunnel.
I've seriously no desire to be blown up on a train in a tunnel or on a high bridge.
I'm not sure there is any more "danger" in getting on a train from London to see mates in Holland or Belgium than there is to see my brother in Cardiff.
And whether heavy handed security really is protecting us from this "danger" is another topic as well.
I've seriously no desire to be blown up on a train in a tunnel or on a high bridge.
I'm not sure there is any more "danger" in getting on a train from London to see mates in Holland or Belgium than there is to see my brother in Cardiff.
And whether heavy handed security really is protecting us from this "danger" is another topic as well.
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
And it's fucking cheap as well. I just tried some random dates in December and it'd be €38 return!
Which site did you use? Best I can get on the Eurostar site is £156.
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
Just like the warm glow you used to get inside the Anti-fascist Protective Rampart maintained by those helpful staff of the Ministry of State Security of the late lamented German Democratic Republic.
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