Paul Robeson address to the South Wales NUM 1958.
The only quote I can so far find relating to his feelings for London are when he was refused service at the Savoy Grill.
So what have the welsh ever given us?
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Paul Robeson address to the South Wales NUM 1958.
The only quote I can so far find relating to his feelings for London are when he was refused service at the Savoy Grill.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
right...<deep, weary, sigh>
let's take this S-L-O-W-L-Y.
1.this thread is called; "so what have the welsh given us.
2. you pitched the late Cde robeson into it, on your own volition
2. I pointed out that - whilst he had an unusual bond - it wasn't the only place he had an affinity with, and other places were equally entitled to make a claim. In short; i disputed wales's rights to a special or unique claim.
3. to this you said; Maybe you should try reading something about Robesons life. (btw; I do)
4; rubber buccaneeer said;
if that ain't an extra-special claim at the evry least, or an implied one, then I'd love to se what is.
and although the wales NUM did sterling work in supporting the campaign to end the travel ban, i'm betting the US state department weren't overly influenced by them.....
let's take this S-L-O-W-L-Y.
1.this thread is called; "so what have the welsh given us.
2. you pitched the late Cde robeson into it, on your own volition
2. I pointed out that - whilst he had an unusual bond - it wasn't the only place he had an affinity with, and other places were equally entitled to make a claim. In short; i disputed wales's rights to a special or unique claim.
3. to this you said; Maybe you should try reading something about Robesons life. (btw; I do)
4; rubber buccaneeer said;
not 'one of...' or anything; HIS. BIG. LOVE.
if that ain't an extra-special claim at the evry least, or an implied one, then I'd love to se what is.
and although the wales NUM did sterling work in supporting the campaign to end the travel ban, i'm betting the US state department weren't overly influenced by them.....
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
where did I say he did? I merely reiterate; the wales-robinson linkage is strong, but not extraordinarily so.Belushi said:
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
to repeat yet again; he performed far, many more times in london theatres than in the WHOLE of wales; every evidence is that he felt at home there. he LIVED in London, not wales.Belushi said:I'm still waiting for you to produce you Robeson quotes where he speak of his love of WC2
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
yes, well, a bit of promotional blurb really is clinching authoritative evidence, isn't it?Belushi said:
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
read the thread title.Belushi said:Stop bullshitting Jezza, I bought Robeson into it as an example of Wales commitment to anti-racism long befiore the Bristol Bus Boycott of the 1960s
really.
really.
slowly.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
no I didn't. I said for YOU to claim him, as it seemed you and RB was doing it, was having a bubbleBelushi said:
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
my words.Belushi said:
EXACTLY;
and - yet again - if you spend as much time in a place you've flown 3000 miles to base tyourself in, you must have a fair degree of affinity.
I don't know a great deal about Port Talbot, but I was once standing on top a hill in North Somerset somewhere (or was it Devon?) with my ex, whom I came south with, and her parents, looking at a beautiful view to the south. Turning round was a slightly different experience, though.
As I stood there, slack-jawed, an old fellow with a dog wandered past and in a broad Welsh accent, with a broad grin, said "our revenge on the English".
Something else the Welsh have done for us... TJs in Newport, which has allowed this honorary yokel to see some great punk gigs in the last few years.
As I stood there, slack-jawed, an old fellow with a dog wandered past and in a broad Welsh accent, with a broad grin, said "our revenge on the English".
Something else the Welsh have done for us... TJs in Newport, which has allowed this honorary yokel to see some great punk gigs in the last few years.
RubberBuccaneer
Hedd Wyn
Brockway said:
They did do a feature on it not so long ago.
And also Robeson ( not Robinson ) addressed rallies in Wales in support of the Spanish Civil War .
RubberBuccaneer
Hedd Wyn
Just googled robeson wales quotes,ect, love...there's dozens of sites all give WAles a prominent place in his biography
RubberBuccaneer
Hedd Wyn
A quick c+p
Paul Robeson
Paul Robeson
"In the years since, his identification with the Welsh had grown - with their ethnic insistence, their strength of character, their political radicalism. His strong bonds with the people of the Rhondda Valley would endure for the rest of his life, and the film he was soon to make about the Welsh miners, The Proud Valley, would always be the one in which he took the most pleasure. In 1938 at Mountain Ash, seven thousand people gathered to commemorate the thirty-three men from Wales who had died in Spain. Veterans of the International Brigade marched behind the flags of Wales and Republican Spain onto a platform filled with one hundred black men, women, and children from Cardiff, as well as a group of orphaned Basque children. The speakers included the Dean of Chichester and Arthur Horner, president of the South Wales Miners' Federation, who introduced Robeson to the audience as "a great champion of the rights of the oppressed people to whom he belongs." Robeson sang, recited two poems Langston Hughes had composed in Spain, and told the audience, "I am here because I know that these fellows fought not only for Spain but for me and the whole world. I feel it is my duty to be here." The audience gave him a standing ovation." p.228
Paul Robeson, by Martin Bauml Duberman, 1989.
Paul Robeson
Paul Robeson
"In the years since, his identification with the Welsh had grown - with their ethnic insistence, their strength of character, their political radicalism. His strong bonds with the people of the Rhondda Valley would endure for the rest of his life, and the film he was soon to make about the Welsh miners, The Proud Valley, would always be the one in which he took the most pleasure. In 1938 at Mountain Ash, seven thousand people gathered to commemorate the thirty-three men from Wales who had died in Spain. Veterans of the International Brigade marched behind the flags of Wales and Republican Spain onto a platform filled with one hundred black men, women, and children from Cardiff, as well as a group of orphaned Basque children. The speakers included the Dean of Chichester and Arthur Horner, president of the South Wales Miners' Federation, who introduced Robeson to the audience as "a great champion of the rights of the oppressed people to whom he belongs." Robeson sang, recited two poems Langston Hughes had composed in Spain, and told the audience, "I am here because I know that these fellows fought not only for Spain but for me and the whole world. I feel it is my duty to be here." The audience gave him a standing ovation." p.228
Paul Robeson, by Martin Bauml Duberman, 1989.
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a ceasefirerowan said:It is?
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I think they're desperately trying to renegotiate, but they definitely surrendered at various points of the day yesterday and todayrowan said:
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there's various posts on their forum... I'll see if I can find a fewrowan said:Did they surrender on this forum, or their own?
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this is a good one!
no vowels said:suggestion - next time we think about issuing a challenge. mass pm's to our team, and strategy and tactics worked out before battle commences via pm's
attemptstopull the jocksin didn't work that well - but did sendthe carrotcrunchers off on a needless quest taking some of their time
Ex - pats of some use
I should have joined in earlier
Next time muthafuckas
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poor rowanrowan said:The only time I've ever been accosted by a perv while camping in my van was in Wales
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