So what have the welsh ever given us?

[Derian]

Taliesin

 

[Streathamite]

what have the welsh given us?
well theres...

then there's...

and not forgetting...

whilst the bristol bus boycott of '63 led to the race relations act.

 

[Derian]

whilst the bristol bus boycott of '63 led to the race relations act.

That was a hell of a lead-in .... 13 years

 

[Streathamite]

nooo....the 1965 one
and to think it was over employment discrimination
ttt..ttt..

 

[Belushi]

Of course the Welsh were fighting racism in the 1930's when we supported the great Paul Robeson, still a national hero to many Welsh folk.

 

[Belushi]

You can thank us for the NHS if you want.

 

[Streathamite]

E2A; wrt Paul robeson, not Nye (born in wales, made a legend in England )
but err....not exactly welsh, was he?
so some welsh people supported him.
big deal.
I'm sure he noticed.
Not

 

[Belushi]

but err....not exactly welsh, was he?
so some welsh people supported him.
big deal.
I'm sure he noticed.
Not

Maybe you should try reading something about Robesons life.

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

E2A; wrt Paul robeson, not Nye (born in wales, made a legend in England )
but err....not exactly welsh, was he?
so some welsh people supported him.
big deal.
I'm sure he noticed.
Not

errr Wales was his big love

 

[Streathamite]

errr Wales was his big love

ONE of the great loves of his life.
he vcertainly visited wales more than most places - however, he also had very close connections with the USSR and the CPSU (he was a near-uncritical admirer of Stalin) and with London (regular london stage performer). to claim him on the basis of a lot of performing visits there would be like me claiming him for WC2

 

[Brockway]

Is there a Bristol museum? Or some kind of local history place? How is your role in the slave trade represented today? Genuinely curious.

 

[Belushi]

ONE of the great loves of his life.
he vcertainly visited wales more than most places - however, he also had very close connections with the USSR and the CPSU (he was a near-uncritical admirer of Stalin) and with London (regular london stage performer). to claim him on the basis of a lot of performing visits there would be like me claiming him for WC2

Yes, because WC2 really supported his battles against racism didnt they

 

[Belushi]

born in wales, made a legend in England

Yeah, cos Westminster is an English Parliament isnt it

 

[Streathamite]

Yes, because WC2 really supported his battles against racism didnt they

ermm I meant 'london's theatreland' by that - as I think, tbh, every single other person in western europe might possibly have realised- rather than a certain hotel grill.
strangely enough....

 

[Belushi]

ermm I meant 'london's theatreland' by that - as I think, tbh, every single other person in western europe might possibly have realised- rather than a certain hotel grill.
strangely enough....

Yes, thats what I meant by WC2. Can you tell me more about his relationship with the people of WC2? point me to his statue in theatrland?

 

[Belushi]

I've been looking but i cant find any evidence of 'Theatrland' supporting his battle against racism and the American Governent? no quotes of him expressing his great love of WC2?

 

[Streathamite]

Yeah, cos Westminster is an English Parliament isnt it

Funny word 'in'. quite often used to donate 'location', y'kniow.
And amazingly enough, the last time I looked up the details of the Palace Of Westminster, its' postal address did seemed to indicate it was in England, yes.
as was the CLC he studied at

 

[Belushi]

Funny word 'in'. quite often used to donate 'location', y'kniow.
And amazingly enough, the last time I looked up the details of the Palace Of Westminster, its' postal address did seemed to indicate it was in England, yes.
as was the CLC he studied at

Okay, Westminste is the Enlgish Parliament

 

[Streathamite]

I've been looking but i cant find any evidence of 'Theatrland' supporting his battle against racism and the American Governent? no quotes of him expressing his great love of WC2?

I never said he had expressed that.
Please tell me where I did?
And I was referring to the fact that
1) the west end and the arts community DOES have certain honourable past progressive laurels

2) as he spent far more time livinjg in england, and performing on the london stage, than he spent singing or living in wales, he must have presumably liked London enough for that.
are you now going to suggest that every single member of the south wales NUM marched alongside him in the deep south?
no. you aren't.
In fact if you BOTHERED TO READ MY POST - I kept it very vague. I merely pointed out that to claim Robeson exclusively as a man of wales on the basis of his personal links makes as much sense as if an old bolshevik claimed him for russia

 

[Streathamite]

Okay, Westminste is the Enlgish Parliament

did I say that?

 

[Streathamite]

Yes, thats what I meant by WC2. Can you tell me more about his relationship with the people of WC2? point me to his statue in theatrland?

where did he perform more in? London or wales?
that constitutes a 'relationship'

 

[Iam]

Honestly, all this hostility.

War's over, boys.

*hands out friendly pills*

 

[Derian]

Innit


*sprinkles happy sparkly dust all over the thread*

 

[Streathamite]

Okay, Westminste is the Enlgish Parliament

do you know what an 'address' is?

cheers IAM - always said that lot had mastery of misery!

 

[djbombscare]

The war is over and McDonalds have moved in. . .

Sorry I just love that pic

 

[Streathamite]

<raises pint of scrumpy>

 

[Belushi]

I never said he had expressed that.
Please tell me where I did?
And I was referring to the fact that
1) the west end and the arts community DOES have certain honourable past progressive laurels

2) as he spent far more time livinjg in england, and performing on the london stage, than he spent singing or living in wales, he must have presumably liked London enough for that.
are you now going to suggest that every single member of the south wales NUM marched alongside him in the deep south?
no. you aren't.
In fact if you BOTHERED TO READ MY POST - I kept it very vague. I merely pointed out that to claim Robeson exclusively as a man of wales on the basis of his personal links makes as much sense as if an old bolshevik claimed him for russia

Bu who claimed Robeson exclusively for Wales

I'd love to see that post where anyone did that.

 

[Belushi]

where did he perform more in? London or wales?
that constitutes a 'relationship'

I'm still waiting for you to produce you Robeson quotes where he speak of his love of WC2

 

[Belushi]

1) the west end and the arts community DOES have certain honourable past progressive laurels

Really? what exactly did WC2 do in support of Robeson?

 

[Belushi]

I think your on to a loser here tbh Jezza, nothing I've ever read about Robeson suggests he had a greater love of 'Theatreland' than he did of Wales.