trashpony
Hag
Fuck, I'm on double shifts those days7am-6pm
How long will it take you on the bus?
I have a pox-ridden child so I am housebound anyway. I suppose this way I won't have to pretend to work
So Tube Strike anyone?
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How long will it take you on the bus?
I have a pox-ridden child so I am housebound anyway. I suppose this way I won't have to pretend to work
Kanda
Diving wanker
About an hour in the morning, 90 mins on way home. Have to get up at 5:30am now.. fucksake
Then get home at 7:45 ish, eat then straight to sleep again. I hate double shifts.
I'm going to Faith No More in Brixton that night, arriving in Paddington at about 4pm. I imagine getting to my mate's flat in King's Cross, dumping my bag and laptop and then getting down to Brixton for a few casual beers prior to the gig is going to be a lot more trouble than I had anticipated, given the weather and my complete lack of knowledge of the bus routes. 
Hmmm, currently "in talks".
I can see where they're coming from redundancy-wise but the 5% payrise is taking the fucking piss. MOst people are grateful just to have a job at the moment, never mind one that already pays £35K(ish), a 30 hour week and 40 days holiday a year.
We've had a 10% paycut this year which followed 3 rounds of redundancies that got rid of 30% of the workforce
Fuckers should have a word with themselves.
ETA: http://news.google.co.uk/news/more?pz=1&ned=uk&cf=all&ncl=drzOMg_ZRsXxkHMDUc_m2ulz3yWhM
I can see where they're coming from redundancy-wise but the 5% payrise is taking the fucking piss. MOst people are grateful just to have a job at the moment, never mind one that already pays £35K(ish), a 30 hour week and 40 days holiday a year.
We've had a 10% paycut this year which followed 3 rounds of redundancies that got rid of 30% of the workforce
Fuckers should have a word with themselves.
ETA: http://news.google.co.uk/news/more?pz=1&ned=uk&cf=all&ncl=drzOMg_ZRsXxkHMDUc_m2ulz3yWhM
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Hmmm, currently "in talks".
I can see where they're coming from redundancy-wise but the 5% payrise is taking the fucking piss. MOst people are grateful just to have a job at the moment, never mind one that already pays £35K(ish), a 30 hour week and 40 days holiday a year.
We've had a 10% paycut this year which followed 3 rounds of redundancies that got rid of 30% of the workforce
Fuckers should have a word with themselves.
ETA: http://news.google.co.uk/news/more?pz=1&ned=uk&cf=all&ncl=drzOMg_ZRsXxkHMDUc_m2ulz3yWhM
*awaits the normal "they work in the dark, it's a dangerous job, theye have people commit suicide in front of them"* posters
*searches for longdog and deckchairs*
I'm going to Faith No More in Brixton that night, arriving in Paddington at about 4pm. I imagine getting to my mate's flat in King's Cross, dumping my bag and laptop and then getting down to Brixton for a few casual beers prior to the gig is going to be a lot more trouble than I had anticipated, given the weather and my complete lack of knowledge of the bus routes.
There are a few buses that go from Paddington to King's Cross and the 45 is slow but will eventually get you from King's Cross to Brixton.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I'm going to Faith No More in Brixton that night, arriving in Paddington at about 4pm. I imagine getting to my mate's flat in King's Cross, dumping my bag and laptop and then getting down to Brixton for a few casual beers prior to the gig is going to be a lot more trouble than I had anticipated, given the weather and my complete lack of knowledge of the bus routes.
No. 45 goes to Brixton
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
and if, when the 45 gets into Elephant, you see a 133, 333, 155, 196 or 415 pull in that looks like it's got space, switch on to one of those as it avoids going down Walworth Road.
However, with the 155, you'll have to get off at Oval, cross the road and get onto Brixton Road where you'll have a choice of the Nos. 3, 59, 133, 159, 333 and 415
Avoid the 196 unless you want a mini tour of that Vauxhall area
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
The Olympics will be a test - what's the betting they hold Boris to ransom?
Thanks for the help both.
My friend is meeting me in the City when he finishes work and reassures me we'll have no problems getting to Brixton!Don't really know tbh, have been racking my brains and I think it could be the first "real" one since he came to office.
Be interesting to see how he deals with it I suppose - can't imagine two more different people than Boris and Bob Crowe...
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Thanks for the help both.
ah, well if you're near Liverpool Street, you can get the 133 which starts from there so hopefully you'll get a seat
hipipol
Peckham Wry
It often actually starts from Moorgate, having stashed itself in Finsbury Circusah, well if you're near Liverpool Street, you can get the 133 which starts from there so hopefully you'll get a seat
Perhaps if more of us were organised in strong unions we wouldn't get treated like shit by the bosses and made to pay for their crisis?
hipipol
Peckham Wry
Vaguely, although I was a tiny wee lad.
Basicly, workers were getting shat on.
Rather than accepting that, they tried to do do something about it.
(At the end they were getting shat on by a Labour government, funny that.)
Do you think the tube drivers are being 'shat on'?
Seriously?
£35k starting salary. Best pension in the public sector. Easy as fuck work. While the rest of us are taking pay cuts just to keep our heads above water these lovely chaps are demanding a well, well, above inflation pay increase. Do you really agree with isambard?
I love the way you pick out just a bit of one of Isambard's posts then jump up and down demanding I answer you. Brilliant. Keep going, I'll pop back later.
I love the way you pick out just a bit of one of Isambard's posts then jump up and down demanding I answer you. Brilliant. Keep going, I'll pop back later.
Er, can't be arsed.. isambard appears to be attempting to equate the miners in the 70s with tube drivers today. There's a few subtle differences
There are plenty of workers in the public sector and the private sector on worse conditions. And? What's that got to do with the price of eggs?
Is that the idea of what is just these days?
That it is right for the bosses to race towards the lowest common demoninantor?
Next time any one tries to cut your pay or extend your hours or worsen your conditions you gonna say "you go right ahead boss cos there were Chinese immigrants risking their lives picking cockles in Morecombe Bay for a pound an hour" and I can't complain as long as there is someone worse off from me." ?
Transport workers (or indeed others) have to put up with a lot of bile when they stick up for themselves but if they let themselves get walked all over you are hardly going to be giving them flowers and sweeties.
In fact they are doing you a favour. YES, it's some inconvenience. That's the point of a strike, to stop the production of the good. If they lose struggles however, the bosses will see a clear field to go further with less organised workers.
Is that the idea of what is just these days?
That it is right for the bosses to race towards the lowest common demoninantor?
Next time any one tries to cut your pay or extend your hours or worsen your conditions you gonna say "you go right ahead boss cos there were Chinese immigrants risking their lives picking cockles in Morecombe Bay for a pound an hour" and I can't complain as long as there is someone worse off from me." ?
Transport workers (or indeed others) have to put up with a lot of bile when they stick up for themselves but if they let themselves get walked all over you are hardly going to be giving them flowers and sweeties.
In fact they are doing you a favour. YES, it's some inconvenience. That's the point of a strike, to stop the production of the good. If they lose struggles however, the bosses will see a clear field to go further with less organised workers.
Yeah, thats right.
For your information I work in the construction industry, which, if you haven't noticed, is being affected by one of the most serious recessions in memory.
What a shame that I don't belong to a "strong union" which would, no doubt, protest against all redundancies and pay adjustments thus ensuring that the whole company goes bankrupt rather than taking the necessary measures to hopefully get through the next couple of years until the economic recovery begins.
What have we all been thinking.
There's the rub though innit, "necessary measures".
Do you really think that in 6-24 months say when things pick up and it's no longer "nescessary", the employers are going to reverse the pay cuts, create the positions again, improve the conditions?
They won't of their own back, that's for sure.
Good pay and conditons are won through two ways, either industrial millitancy or a high demand for labour of which there is limited supply.
Even during the "good years" there was a downward screw on real term pay and massive increases in productivity. We were getting pissy 2% pay rises when the real rate of inflation was much higher and one of lump sums that never accumulate over the years. And from the employers side the message to protect our jobs by not threatening the boom.
For the employers that manage to survice this recession in capitalism, it won't be a bad thing as they will have another chance to force pay and conditions down with the chances of the balance of forces moving the other way seemingly gone for a generation.
Do you really think that in 6-24 months say when things pick up and it's no longer "nescessary", the employers are going to reverse the pay cuts, create the positions again, improve the conditions?
They won't of their own back, that's for sure.
Good pay and conditons are won through two ways, either industrial millitancy or a high demand for labour of which there is limited supply.
Even during the "good years" there was a downward screw on real term pay and massive increases in productivity. We were getting pissy 2% pay rises when the real rate of inflation was much higher and one of lump sums that never accumulate over the years. And from the employers side the message to protect our jobs by not threatening the boom.
For the employers that manage to survice this recession in capitalism, it won't be a bad thing as they will have another chance to force pay and conditions down with the chances of the balance of forces moving the other way seemingly gone for a generation.
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