So there's no genuine confrontation planned for the G8 this year?

[Firky]

You make it sound like throwing bricks at riot police for a laugh is somehow a bad thing.

I'd never throw bricks at the police. I like to play tennis on Sundays, I could tear a muscle.

 

[Firky]

Should we all be sustaining ourselves on a mixture of self satisfaction and ideological purity or something?

I'm already there, its the next power up from kicking in a mcdonalds windows in your disguised in your black ray bans and reeboks.

 

[Yossarian]

I think its funny when people say they're going to protest for change, do whatever it takes. Then clock off at 5pm cos they have work in the morning. Wankers.

Yeah, how dare they have jobs.

 

[In Bloom]

I'm already there, its the next power up from kicking in a mcdonalds windows in your disguised in your black ray bans and reeboks.

Eh?

I'd never wear Reeboks if I knew I was going to be kicking in windows anyway, that'd just be silly.

 

[In Bloom]

As Chris Morris said, it forever changed the British habit of writing the day before the month in dates.

Not heard that one before.

 

[zenie]

This thread demonstrates why Urban75 is fucking shit for P&P the days.

Lets go to G8 for a fun day out

*tootles off to libcom and wonders why*

What good does ranting on an internet board do though?

 

[zenie]

I think another reason for the decline of those protests is not just the improved police tactics, but the fact - as demonstrated in Sweden, Genoa and Switzerland - that the police are more than willing to shoot people to ensure these events go ahead.

When the stakes are raised to that level, many people, hardly surprisingly, say sod this I'm off. Which of course is another reason why the the cops shoot people - as an example to the others.....

yer we've been forewarned about limited travel in and out of the area, they dont want people to protest. They dont want people to have any kind of conflict, or opinion on whats being said.

 

[Firky]

Eh?

I'd never wear Reeboks if I knew I was going to be kicking in windows anyway, that'd just be silly.

 

[The Black Hand]

That's a picture of the average AF conference attender - with the hair that was on the head now on the chin

 

[rekil]

I hear this argument a lot, but to be honest, I don't think that's true at all. IME, most people who aren't involved in lefty politics think that Genoa style rioting looks fucking stupid.

It was perfectly apparent to most neutral observers at the time that Genoa was a police riot but there'll always be useless liberal types who believe that cops only use violence for self defence, and there'll always be idiots who enjoy seeing lefties getting the shit kicked out of them.

 

[yokerist]

wel go there for a sausage and a laugh:

as for the holier than thou dissing of "summit hopping", well I have been to a few and they were all a good laugh; not necessarily the revolutionary act par excellance; but hey neither is frequenting u75;

its all good so long as people arent fooling themselves:

btw regarding travelling costs

it is quite easy to hitch to anywhere in europe for free

(bop bop bop)

 

[In Bloom]

as for the holier than thou dissing of "summit hopping", well I have been to a few and they were all a good laugh; not necessarily the revolutionary act par excellance; but hey neither is frequenting u75;

Oh, sorry, my mistake. I thought I was posting on a politics board, not a place for bored liberal hobbyists to talk about their minibreak to Germany.

 

[yokerist]

Hey bloomy

I am not a "bored liberal whatever. . . . . .

you are the one posting yawning pictures to the bored

is this exciting??

I do what I do none of which is liberal (apart from posting to this site):

if people wanna travel to germany and have it a la genoa, switzeeland, nice or tesslonika

I say go for it:

it will expand their minds beyond the paltry life experience to be had in these isles:

as for doing gaylord arty stuff a la zenie and friends I say go for it and good luck but I eh will be being gaay elsewhere decidedly

(bop bop bop)

 

[yokerist]

ooops
ok I do actually live in a liberal capitalist democracy

and I read the graudian and other liberlly minded ting

 

[Taxamo Welf]

Absolutely nothing, but it's not exactly a train ticket to Manchester, is it? Sort of makes you wonder about the sort of people who can afford to do this sort of shit

OMG about 20% of your own org are going? FFS Inners you don't half crack me up

PS a first class train ticket across the UK costs more than a well picked and prebooked ticket (by plane or bus) to europe.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

Oh, sorry, my mistake. I thought I was posting on a politics board, not a place for bored liberal hobbyists to talk about their minibreak to Germany.

1) if you want a board that never discusses 'activistism' and silliness, only focusses class struggle etc ------> libcom

2) there is nothing wrong with going to the G8 as long as it isn't seen as a pressure group activity a la MPH and oxfam. The problem is that some people think it is the be all and end all. These people are quite small in number, but often quite loud in our tiny weeny scene. The challenge is not to shout them down, but to demonstrate more effective ways of enacting change. Lots of people who swore they'd never do the g8 thing again are still going this year cos they haven't got anything better to do.

3) i don't even need a 3 . stop being an arse mate

 

[Taxamo Welf]

So there's no genuine confrontation planned for the G8 this year?

No confrontation? This is SPARTAAAAAAAAA!*







*Germany.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

1) if you want a board that never discusses 'activistism' and silliness, only focusses class struggle etc ------> libcom

2) there is nothing wrong with going to the G8 as long as it isn't seen as a pressure group activity a la MPH and oxfam. The problem is that some people think it is the be all and end all. These people are quite small in number, but often quite loud in our tiny weeny scene. The challenge is not to shout them down, but to demonstrate more effective ways of enacting change. Lots of people who swore they'd never do the g8 thing again are still going this year cos they haven't got anything better to do.

3) i don't even need a 3 . stop being an arse mate

actually heres my point 3) if you added the costs and time involved its taken just as much to drag our sorry arse to all the STW demo's we have, which are probs far more pointless than the G8 where at the very least its spreads the ideas and knowledge a bit more, then it proably dwarfs the time and cost of going to Germany.

 

[In Bloom]

OMG about 20% of your own org are going? FFS Inners you don't half crack me up

PS a first class train ticket across the UK costs more than a well picked and prebooked ticket (by plane or bus) to europe.

You make it really difficult for me to troll in peace sometimes

 

[In Bloom]

there is nothing wrong with going to the G8 as long as it isn't seen as a pressure group activity a la MPH and oxfam. The problem is that some people think it is the be all and end all. These people are quite small in number, but often quite loud in our tiny weeny scene. The challenge is not to shout them down, but to demonstrate more effective ways of enacting change. Lots of people who swore they'd never do the g8 thing again are still going this year cos they haven't got anything better to do.

The thing is that anti-G8 protests waste a huuuuuge ammount of time and money, not just on travel costs, but organising crash space and food for a fuck, legal costs and the all the other expensive things that having lots of anarchists in one place at one time always results in.

It just strikes me that it could all be going towards doing something a little more worthwhile.

 

[Thora]

I'm well looking forward to my minibreak in Germany I hope the weather's good.

 

[yokerist]

look if you fancy yourself as a sausage muncher or are fond drinking a lot of beer theres really no better place to, if there happens to be a riot all the better, we havent had a good one here in fucking ages