So there's no genuine confrontation planned for the G8 this year?
- Thread starter DrRingDing
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I hear this argument a lot, but to be honest, I don't think that's true at all. IME, most people who aren't involved in lefty politics think that Genoa style rioting looks fucking stupid. And I don't even want to begin explaining how embarrassing it was when some non-politico mates of mine saw the inside of a convergence centre. The filth are also getting better and better at containing these kind of tactics, you couldn't sneeze in Scotland during the G8 without attracting the the attention of an armed response unit.DrRingDing said:
Besides which, summit protests are completely divorced from every day life, they mean nothing to most people, they say nothing of any relevance.
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
I'll donate a tenner to the 'zenie goes to G8 fund' if you pm your address.zenie said:Come and join the RAFwe're going (if I can scrape the money together)
Sure you're doing fundraisers where you are, but I'm not where you are, and likewise other people aren't where you are. Get a few more people who'd like to go but can't to chip in, and you're sorted.
NB: for your G8 fund, not beer or chocolate, yeah?!?
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
In Bloom said:
Reports of J18 in the right wing press woke me up to direct action. I didn't realise there were others as pissed of as me and willing to kick off.
The year after I went to Mayday 2000 and the year after Genoa.
Whatever you do you will not make the changes you want. That doesn't mean you shouldn't confront the organisations and people that cause and profit from the misery (in addtion to smal things you can do that will make real changes to peoples lives).
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
In Bloom said:
Embaressing? why?
Because it was full of weirdos, there were posters up all over the walls detailing the finer points of those retarded hand gestures some people insist on using and it just looked like some club house a bunch of kids had cobbled together.DrRingDing said:
The whole punk/DIY aesthetic is cute, but it's not very useful when you're trying to organise for political action.
The Black Hand
Unclean
In Bloom said:
Sounds like an AF conference
'Completely divorced from everyday life, means nothing, and says nothing of any relevance...'
Up for it for very different reasons. In Edinburgh there was people there who were blatantly there for the whole, guilt thing. Sorry but going to one demo a year and waving a placard with your faux pinko mates does not change a fucking thing as you go back to work the next day.
Paul Marsh
NeitherWashingtonNorMecca
I think another reason for the decline of those protests is not just the improved police tactics, but the fact - as demonstrated in Sweden, Genoa and Switzerland - that the police are more than willing to shoot people to ensure these events go ahead.
When the stakes are raised to that level, many people, hardly surprisingly, say sod this I'm off. Which of course is another reason why the the cops shoot people - as an example to the others.....
When the stakes are raised to that level, many people, hardly surprisingly, say sod this I'm off. Which of course is another reason why the the cops shoot people - as an example to the others.....
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Paul Marsh said:
It's a valid point but, IMO, is not the real reason why these have declined.
9/11/2001 changed everything.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
DrRingDing said:
Coincidence hey?
*Dons foil trilby*
Paul Marsh
NeitherWashingtonNorMecca
DrRingDing said:
I can't remember the 9th November as being that exciting to be honest....
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Paul Marsh said:
Doh!
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
In Bloom said:
I'll give a fuller, better answer tomorrow, so I'll leave it til then.
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