So Ethical Meat is in the media again.

[Orang Utan]

Have attitudes towards meat changed much in the last twenty years? I haven't noticed it.

Certainly - have you been living in a cave?

 

[untethered]

Certainly - have you been living in a cave?

Absolutely not.

How have they changed? Twenty years ago there was a small proportion of vegetarians and vegans and most other people had no interest in the matter at all. Is it any different now?

 

[Orang Utan]

Absolutely not.

How have they changed? Twenty years ago there was a small proportion of vegetarians and vegans and most other people had no interest in the matter at all. Is it any different now?

Yes, now there's a much larger proportion and people are more interested in how their meat is produced and where it is from? Was there much free range produce in the stores 20 years ago?

 

[tarannau]

Jeez Untethered, is there ever a thread where you don't make an ill-informed arse out of yourself.

You honestly don't think that British attitudes to meat have changed in the last 20 years? For eample, don't you remember the not so distant time ago when Walls used to make what was considered a decent quality sausage. Or when fray bentos pies, tinned hams and the like were more popular.

Are you really claiming that the number of vegans and vegetarians hasn't risen markedly in the last 20 years or so?

Honestly, I'm beginning to think you're a parody of someone not living in the real world.

 

[untethered]

Yes, now there's a much larger proportion and people are more interested in how their meat is produced and where it is from? Was there much free range produce in the stores 20 years ago?

Isn't it just another niche middle-class obsession? (Not that there's anything wrong with that in principle, of course.)

 

[Orang Utan]

Isn't it just another niche middle-class obsession? (Not that there's anything wrong with that in principle, of course.)

Well the 'middle classes' are huge now

 

[tarannau]

Can't you just admit that you've made a big plonker of yourself again?

The middle class hardly counts as a niche, however you wrap it up

 

[untethered]

Jeez Untethered, is there ever a thread where you don't make an ill-informed arse out of yourself.

Well there certainly rarely is a thread where you don't accuse me of doing so.

You honestly don't think that British attitudes to meat have changed in the last 20 years? For eample, don't you remember the not so distant time ago when Walls used to make what was considered a decent quality sausage. Or when fray bentos pies, tinned hams and the like were more popular.

No idea. I never ate that kind of thing myself so I have no idea what other people did then, or now.

Are you really claiming that the number of vegans and vegetarians hasn't risen markedly in the last 20 years or so?

I presume there must be statistics somewhere. You tell me. I haven't spotted a tidal wave of vegetarianism in my neighbourhood.

 

[tarannau]

Well there certainly rarely is a thread where you don't accuse me of doing so.
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I can only go on what you post really. And you consistently make a fool out of yourself and misrepresent others and the modern world.

Still, for someone who's so keen to pontificate and moralise to others, you don't seem to have any real grip on reality or recent trends. It's as though you've stuck your head in the sand and are determined to insulate yourself from the modern world and the majority of the population.

Gallup polls in 1997 alone, hardly recent news, showed that vegetarians had doubled in the preceding 10 years. More recent stats can be seen on the Vegetarian Society website http://www.vegsoc.org/news/2000/21cv/introduction.html. That's not even to start on much more widespread changes in eating habits

 

[Orang Utan]

I have no idea

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