So are phones with removeable batteries gone for good now?
- Thread starter teuchter
- Start date
ChrisC
Well-Known Member
Really?! Pray tell how you managed that one?
At a guess they flashed the os onto it.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Mojofilter
Well-Known Member
^This
Check out XDA for destructions
That really isn’t the same as the manufacturer supporting the device & is well beyond the capability of the vast majority of users.
Not to mention that (at last time of checking) rooting breaks most online banking apps and contactless payment systems.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It's by definition pretty much the exact opposite!
Do they? The 5c is no longer supported, and only stopped selling 3 years ago.
This is true, but the broken home button was a massively common fault, as was the lack of signal if you didn't hold the phone in Apple's proprietary manner, as are bent-from-the-factory iPhone X models, etc.
I have an almost 5 year old Galaxy S5 running the latest Android 9.0.
And a 1999 Dell Latitude CPx laptop running Windows 10
The 5c came out in 2013 though. You can still buy 3 year old iPhones now but of course, they'll not run the latest OS for much longer.
Had 3 iOS devices. No problem with the home button on any of them. No problems with the signal on the couple of iPhones included in that.
I look after about 15 iOS devices we use at work too. No problems with any of the home buttons on those either.
I mean I get it, you hate Apple. Fine. But let's not pretend they're uniquely troubled by occasional quality control issues or design errors. Samsung etc all have too. No iPhone model got a rep for catching fire.
cheesethief
Well-Known Member
I am not in the Apple fandom camp (all seems a bit silly to me, like a new age religion) but neither am I anti-Apple. And I totally agree that all hardware manufacturers have issues & screw-ups from time to time. I think the reason why some people sometimes make a bigger deal about Apple cockups is that historically Apple has presented itself as the quality brand, the one that "just works", the premium product that warrants the premium price, etc. And it might be anecdotal, but it seems to me that Apple have a poor track record of owning up to their mistakes, perhaps more so than other manufacturers.
I'd agree with that. I'm certainly not an Apple fanboy. I'd not use a mac and I've got a Samsung tablet. It's just the hyperbole from the avowed anti apple camp gets on my nerves.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yeah, we've got iPhones because we've got used to them and they do everything nicely without breaking or fucking up. At a price. I've never used a Mac or any other Apple product but the smartphones are ace. Mrs Spy upgraded at the weekend and I was expecting to have to piss about backing stuff up to the cloud and then transferring it to the new phone. As it happened I just scanned a pattern on the screen of the old phone with the camera of the new phone, swapped the SIM card and boom, it was done. Dunno if that's Apple specific but it took less than a minute.
I also got £140 for her old handset.
Last edited:
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
I did the same, took seconds, was amazed.
Who did she flog to the old phone to, my 7+ is just sat in the drawer next to me?
alsoknownas
some bloke
Turbocharge (à la Motorola) is a pretty good tech. I hardly ever think about battery life now. Quick whizz and you're back up and running. Not the same as swappable batts of course, but a route to consider.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Most often I swap batteries whilst travelling, or away from power sockets.
For example, I use my phone for navigation on bike rides. On a longish ride it's easy to go through two batteries' worth of power. So with my current phone I start off with a spare, charged battery in reserve. Once the one in the phone goes, part way through the ride, it takes a minute to swap it out, I'm straight away back to full power and I can carry on.
With a sealed phone, the only solution to this is an external power pack. And it has to be attached to the phone the whole time because it's not going to recharge it in a minute. That's not impossible but it means finding a way to support not just the phone but the weighty power pack as well, on the handlebars.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I didn't say it was, but it's actually very simple to do, and just as simple to sort the contactless thing. There's an app to fix it.
I don't hate Apple. I applaud them for their 'Emperor's new clothes' business model, and for managing to convince people to buy into it. What I do hate is people bleating on about how amazing Apple products are, when, at best, they're no better than any other phone, and at the price, they should be far superior.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Whatever price those rip-off sites offer (and it'll likely be less than the price shown on the comparison site unless it's in immaculate condition), it ought to be possible to get a good bit more by selling it directly on ebay. Often loads more.
alsoknownas
some bloke
Fairphone? Removable battery. Ethical ethos (catchy!). Other serviceable parts.
https://shop.fairphone.com/en/
ETA: Just seen, beaten to it down-thread!
https://shop.fairphone.com/en/
etc.
ETA: Just seen, beaten to it down-thread!
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
The solution to that is to buy a proper bike computer...
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I've always received the quoted price from the resellers and all the same models are going for about the same on eBay. It's also a hell of a lot faster and you don't have to worry about dickhead eBay buyers complaining something's wrong/wants to return etc. You might get an extra couple of quid but life's too short.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Anything that negates dealing with ebay and the dickheads who use it is a win.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Put differently, a consequence of making batteries non-removeable is that one might have to buy two devices where one previously sufficed.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Or one might purchase a portable charging device (power bank). I hear they're all the rage this century.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Maybe. But a dedicated device designed for one specific purpose almost always out performs something that does lots.
I used a phone for ages but my Wahoo Bolt is better in every way.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
The price they offer you is based on it being in near-immaculate condition. So you have to compare it with ones without any defects. The ebay listing you show at the top for example, in the listing details notes that there's a white mark on the screen that 'just appeared one day'.
You'll find other ones, in excellent condition, selling for more.
Of course, ebay can be dangerous for people that don't know what they are doing and don't check stuff properly, or who are otherwise naive in a commercial environment. So I'd recommend that you should stick with the online merchants even though they'll give you a lower price than what you phone is actually worth.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Sure. Just like a dedicated camera is likely to be better than the one in a smartphone. But if you don't want to spend zillions of pounds on multiple devices, or just want to reduce the amount of stuff you have to cart around when travelling, then it's nice to be able to get the most you can out of one device. After all, that's kind of supposed to be the point of a decent smartphone. Taking a lot of photographs on a long day out and about is another example of where having a swappable battery in a phone is really handy, because taking photos also drains batteries fast and it's not going to work trying to take photos with a power pack attached.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
With warranties usually. And you've found the most expensive one there. There are over 50 similar phones with BiN prices between £130 and £170. I can get into that ballpark with a sale and payment in around 72hrs as opposed to a week to 2 weeks, and my time is far more valuable than yours. AND I won't have to deal with someone like you. Total win!
Similar threads
