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FridgeMagnet

Administrator
I have been hearing some nasty things about rights and these online sites which is a pain because I wouldn't mind putting some stuff online now.

pbase, flickr, smugmug, 500px, I suppose I need to read up on their terms.
Most of the posts about how “(service X) owns your images!” are complete rubbish. Okay, I say “most” to be generous, I haven’t seen one that isn’t yet but maybe there is one somewhere. There are occasionally some surprises in the Ts&Cs though.
 

Artaxerxes

Well-Known Member
hmm.

must try and decide what to do. i did pay for the current 'pro' thing, as this sort of thing free is not sustainable (remember fotopic?) but the idea of the price doubling (and that's in dollars - before thinking about the exchange rate) - meh.

i'd never use something online as even backup, let alone only place i kept something, and (post fotopic) i tend to write the captions / text in a word document and copy-pasta it.

wonder if they would notice if i ended up with two accounts from different e-mail addresses?
I'm wondering about converting all my current images to one massive image then uploading it 1000 times.

But I am lazy so I'll just phase flickr out and when (if) I start doing photos on the regular again I'll investigate other sites.
 

FridgeMagnet

Administrator
Account renewal reminder email:
Your 2 Year Flickr Pro subscription will renew on February 20th, 2019 at the current price of $49.99 per year billed at $99.98 every other year.
:hmm:

Why is it that I would want to pay for two years up front again? I did previously have it set to two year renewals but that was because there was a discount.
 

Artaxerxes

Well-Known Member
Finally started taking some pictures again and found flickr hasn't removed my old photos.

A brief attempt to filter out 2000+ photos from 2006 onwards and I'm down to 1800 and up to 2015 and very depressed at having to do this.

I'd have been happier if they had just removed anything up to 1000 as it'd be less painful
 
of course i don't know if they would be able to tell if two accounts, set up with different e-mail addresses, each with less than 1,000 photos, were the same person...

i'd not quite reached 1,000 when this happened...
 

gawkrodger

Well-Known Member
anyone else having a complete mare trying to log in? They are requesting I put in my yahoo email as they are migrating away - however, I've never had a yahoo email address as I just used my gmail address to set up a yahoo account
 
anyone else having a complete mare trying to log in? They are requesting I put in my yahoo email as they are migrating away - however, I've never had a yahoo email address as I just used my gmail address to set up a yahoo account
not had any issues here - but have heard of a few people not able to access their accounts.

there was a while a few months back when they were encouraging people to set up a new login. did you see this / do anything about it?
 

editor

hiraethified
Just got this email:

Flickr—the world’s most-beloved, money-losing business—needs your help.

Two years ago, Flickr was losing tens of millions of dollars a year. Our company, SmugMug, stepped in to rescue it from being shut down and to save tens of billions of your precious photos from being erased.

Why? We’ve spent 17 years lovingly building our company into a thriving, family-owned and -operated business that cares deeply about photographers. SmugMug has always been the place for photographers to showcase their photography, and we’ve long admired how Flickr has been the community where they connect with each other. We couldn’t stand by and watch Flickr vanish.

So we took a big risk, stepped in, and saved Flickr. Together, we created the world’s largest photographer-focused community: a place where photographers can stand out and fit in.

We’ve been hard at work improving Flickr. We hired an excellent, large staff of Support Heroes who now deliver support with an average customer satisfaction rating of above 90%. We got rid of Yahoo’s login. We moved the platform and every photo to Amazon Web Services (AWS), the industry leader in cloud computing, and modernized its technology along the way. As a result, pages are already 20% faster and photos load 30% more quickly. Platform outages, including Pandas, are way down. Flickr continues to get faster and more stable, and important new features are being built once again.

Our work is never done, but we’ve made tremendous progress.

Now Flickr needs your help. It’s still losing money. Hundreds of thousands of loyal Flickr members stepped up and joined Flickr Pro, for which we are eternally grateful. It’s losing a lot less money than it was. But it’s not yet making enough.

We need more Flickr Pro members if we want to keep the Flickr dream alive.

We didn’t buy Flickr because we thought it was a cash cow. Unlike platforms like Facebook, we also didn’t buy it to invade your privacy and sell your data. We bought it because we love photographers, we love photography, and we believe Flickr deserves not only to live on but thrive. We think the world agrees; and we think the Flickr community does, too. But we cannot continue to operate it at a loss as we’ve been doing.

Flickr is the world’s largest photographer-focused community. It’s the world’s best way to find great photography and connect with amazing photographers. Flickr hosts some of the world’s most iconic, most priceless photos, freely available to the entire world. This community is home to more than 100 million accounts and tens of billions of photos. It serves billions of photos every single day. It’s huge. It’s a priceless treasure for the whole world. And it costs money to operate. Lots of money.

Flickr is not a charity, and we’re not asking you for a donation. Flickr is the best value in photo sharing anywhere in the world. Flickr Pro members get ad-free browsing for themselves and their visitors, advanced stats, unlimited full-quality storage for all their photos, plus premium features and access to the world’s largest photographer-focused community for less than $5 per month.

You likely pay services such as Netflix and Spotify at least $9 per month. I love services like these, and I’m a happy paying customer, but they don’t keep your priceless photos safe and let you share them with the most important people in your world. Flickr does, and a Flickr Pro membership costs less than $1 per week.

Please, help us make Flickr thrive. Help us ensure it has a bright future. Every Flickr Pro subscription goes directly to keeping Flickr alive and creating great new experiences for photographers like you. We are building lots of great things for the Flickr community, but we need your help. We can do this together.

We’re launching our end-of-year Pro subscription campaign on Thursday, December 26, but I want to invite you to subscribe to Flickr Pro today for the same 25% discount.

We’ve gone to great lengths to optimize Flickr for cost savings wherever possible, but the increasing cost of operating this enormous community and continuing to invest in its future will require a small price increase early in the new year, so this is truly the very best time to upgrade your membership to Pro.

If you value Flickr finally being independent, built for photographers and by photographers, we ask you to join us, and to share this offer with those who share your love of photography and community.
I abandoned the platform ages ago.
 

FridgeMagnet

Administrator
I got a similar email, but since I am already a pro member, it had a discount code and signup link to give to other people.

I'm okay with paying for another year, given that I have a lot of pics there already and want to support them, but I'm not sure I could sell it to anyone else right now, except maybe on the basis of the discounts. If you're upgrading a massive old system it is a good idea to start with the basics, like moving it to proper hosting, and it's definitely faster and more reliable now, but that's not what people pay for. The features are generally just those of the same old Flickr so far.

I worry that Yahoo really have just dealt it a mortal wound by neglecting it for so long, and that in itself makes me less likely to use it for galleries in case it just goes in a few years, which makes the problem worse. I'm already considering putting any series I shoot in future onto a personal site now, where I not only have more control of layout and content but I also know they will stay as long as I keep paying the hosting bill.

ETA: Flickr is also a terrific searchable repository of photos, particularly for CC-licenced ones. Facebook and Instagram are shit for this. If I want to find pictures of obscure things and places, particularly photography-related, Flickr is where I go. Some of the groups also have really useful advice and information going back years. So if it dies it's another blow to public information on the web.
 
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StoneRoad

heckling from the back!
I don't use flickr because I can't log-in so my a/c is moribund.

In fact, in 2013, after that 'orrible black background (and other changes) appeared
I migrated to Ipernity.
Well worth it !
The site is now a member run community (not quite a co-operative) and the committee that runs the site on behalf of the members has gone into the costs/benefits of the subscriptions very carefully.
Go try it out !
 

Saul Goodman

It's all good, man
anyone else having a complete mare trying to log in? They are requesting I put in my yahoo email as they are migrating away - however, I've never had a yahoo email address as I just used my gmail address to set up a yahoo account
Try <your-flickr-username>@yahoo.com
 

weltweit

Well-Known Member
When I first got into digital photography everyone I knew used pbase. In recent times more have been using Flickr.

I had a VPS at the time so I hosted my own but these days are past.

I might try wordpress for some, otherwise I don't yet have a favourite.
 

StoneRoad

heckling from the back!
When I first got into digital photography everyone I knew used pbase. In recent times more have been using Flickr.

I had a VPS at the time so I hosted my own but these days are past.

I might try wordpress for some, otherwise I don't yet have a favourite.
Ipernity also has "articles" - a lot of members use them as a blog and you can insert images ...
 
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