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SmugMug Buys Flickr

I have been hearing some nasty things about rights and these online sites which is a pain because I wouldn't mind putting some stuff online now.

pbase, flickr, smugmug, 500px, I suppose I need to read up on their terms.
Most of the posts about how “(service X) owns your images!” are complete rubbish. Okay, I say “most” to be generous, I haven’t seen one that isn’t yet but maybe there is one somewhere. There are occasionally some surprises in the Ts&Cs though.
 
hmm.

must try and decide what to do. i did pay for the current 'pro' thing, as this sort of thing free is not sustainable (remember fotopic?) but the idea of the price doubling (and that's in dollars - before thinking about the exchange rate) - meh.

i'd never use something online as even backup, let alone only place i kept something, and (post fotopic) i tend to write the captions / text in a word document and copy-pasta it.

wonder if they would notice if i ended up with two accounts from different e-mail addresses?

I'm wondering about converting all my current images to one massive image then uploading it 1000 times.

But I am lazy so I'll just phase flickr out and when (if) I start doing photos on the regular again I'll investigate other sites.
 
Account renewal reminder email:
Your 2 Year Flickr Pro subscription will renew on February 20th, 2019 at the current price of $49.99 per year billed at $99.98 every other year.
:hmm:

Why is it that I would want to pay for two years up front again? I did previously have it set to two year renewals but that was because there was a discount.
 
Finally started taking some pictures again and found flickr hasn't removed my old photos.

A brief attempt to filter out 2000+ photos from 2006 onwards and I'm down to 1800 and up to 2015 and very depressed at having to do this.

I'd have been happier if they had just removed anything up to 1000 as it'd be less painful
 
of course i don't know if they would be able to tell if two accounts, set up with different e-mail addresses, each with less than 1,000 photos, were the same person...

i'd not quite reached 1,000 when this happened...
 
anyone else having a complete mare trying to log in? They are requesting I put in my yahoo email as they are migrating away - however, I've never had a yahoo email address as I just used my gmail address to set up a yahoo account
 
anyone else having a complete mare trying to log in? They are requesting I put in my yahoo email as they are migrating away - however, I've never had a yahoo email address as I just used my gmail address to set up a yahoo account

not had any issues here - but have heard of a few people not able to access their accounts.

there was a while a few months back when they were encouraging people to set up a new login. did you see this / do anything about it?
 
Just got this email:

Flickr—the world’s most-beloved, money-losing business—needs your help.

Two years ago, Flickr was losing tens of millions of dollars a year. Our company, SmugMug, stepped in to rescue it from being shut down and to save tens of billions of your precious photos from being erased.

Why? We’ve spent 17 years lovingly building our company into a thriving, family-owned and -operated business that cares deeply about photographers. SmugMug has always been the place for photographers to showcase their photography, and we’ve long admired how Flickr has been the community where they connect with each other. We couldn’t stand by and watch Flickr vanish.

So we took a big risk, stepped in, and saved Flickr. Together, we created the world’s largest photographer-focused community: a place where photographers can stand out and fit in.

We’ve been hard at work improving Flickr. We hired an excellent, large staff of Support Heroes who now deliver support with an average customer satisfaction rating of above 90%. We got rid of Yahoo’s login. We moved the platform and every photo to Amazon Web Services (AWS), the industry leader in cloud computing, and modernized its technology along the way. As a result, pages are already 20% faster and photos load 30% more quickly. Platform outages, including Pandas, are way down. Flickr continues to get faster and more stable, and important new features are being built once again.

Our work is never done, but we’ve made tremendous progress.

Now Flickr needs your help. It’s still losing money. Hundreds of thousands of loyal Flickr members stepped up and joined Flickr Pro, for which we are eternally grateful. It’s losing a lot less money than it was. But it’s not yet making enough.

We need more Flickr Pro members if we want to keep the Flickr dream alive.

We didn’t buy Flickr because we thought it was a cash cow. Unlike platforms like Facebook, we also didn’t buy it to invade your privacy and sell your data. We bought it because we love photographers, we love photography, and we believe Flickr deserves not only to live on but thrive. We think the world agrees; and we think the Flickr community does, too. But we cannot continue to operate it at a loss as we’ve been doing.

Flickr is the world’s largest photographer-focused community. It’s the world’s best way to find great photography and connect with amazing photographers. Flickr hosts some of the world’s most iconic, most priceless photos, freely available to the entire world. This community is home to more than 100 million accounts and tens of billions of photos. It serves billions of photos every single day. It’s huge. It’s a priceless treasure for the whole world. And it costs money to operate. Lots of money.

Flickr is not a charity, and we’re not asking you for a donation. Flickr is the best value in photo sharing anywhere in the world. Flickr Pro members get ad-free browsing for themselves and their visitors, advanced stats, unlimited full-quality storage for all their photos, plus premium features and access to the world’s largest photographer-focused community for less than $5 per month.

You likely pay services such as Netflix and Spotify at least $9 per month. I love services like these, and I’m a happy paying customer, but they don’t keep your priceless photos safe and let you share them with the most important people in your world. Flickr does, and a Flickr Pro membership costs less than $1 per week.

Please, help us make Flickr thrive. Help us ensure it has a bright future. Every Flickr Pro subscription goes directly to keeping Flickr alive and creating great new experiences for photographers like you. We are building lots of great things for the Flickr community, but we need your help. We can do this together.

We’re launching our end-of-year Pro subscription campaign on Thursday, December 26, but I want to invite you to subscribe to Flickr Pro today for the same 25% discount.

We’ve gone to great lengths to optimize Flickr for cost savings wherever possible, but the increasing cost of operating this enormous community and continuing to invest in its future will require a small price increase early in the new year, so this is truly the very best time to upgrade your membership to Pro.

If you value Flickr finally being independent, built for photographers and by photographers, we ask you to join us, and to share this offer with those who share your love of photography and community.
I abandoned the platform ages ago.
 
I got a similar email, but since I am already a pro member, it had a discount code and signup link to give to other people.

I'm okay with paying for another year, given that I have a lot of pics there already and want to support them, but I'm not sure I could sell it to anyone else right now, except maybe on the basis of the discounts. If you're upgrading a massive old system it is a good idea to start with the basics, like moving it to proper hosting, and it's definitely faster and more reliable now, but that's not what people pay for. The features are generally just those of the same old Flickr so far.

I worry that Yahoo really have just dealt it a mortal wound by neglecting it for so long, and that in itself makes me less likely to use it for galleries in case it just goes in a few years, which makes the problem worse. I'm already considering putting any series I shoot in future onto a personal site now, where I not only have more control of layout and content but I also know they will stay as long as I keep paying the hosting bill.

ETA: Flickr is also a terrific searchable repository of photos, particularly for CC-licenced ones. Facebook and Instagram are shit for this. If I want to find pictures of obscure things and places, particularly photography-related, Flickr is where I go. Some of the groups also have really useful advice and information going back years. So if it dies it's another blow to public information on the web.
 
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I don't use flickr because I can't log-in so my a/c is moribund.

In fact, in 2013, after that 'orrible black background (and other changes) appeared
I migrated to Ipernity.
Well worth it !
The site is now a member run community (not quite a co-operative) and the committee that runs the site on behalf of the members has gone into the costs/benefits of the subscriptions very carefully.
Go try it out !
 
anyone else having a complete mare trying to log in? They are requesting I put in my yahoo email as they are migrating away - however, I've never had a yahoo email address as I just used my gmail address to set up a yahoo account
Try <your-flickr-username>@yahoo.com
 
When I first got into digital photography everyone I knew used pbase. In recent times more have been using Flickr.

I had a VPS at the time so I hosted my own but these days are past.

I might try wordpress for some, otherwise I don't yet have a favourite.
 
When I first got into digital photography everyone I knew used pbase. In recent times more have been using Flickr.

I had a VPS at the time so I hosted my own but these days are past.

I might try wordpress for some, otherwise I don't yet have a favourite.

Ipernity also has "articles" - a lot of members use them as a blog and you can insert images ...
 
I've finally got sufficiently fed up with Google photos to stop using it as my safety backup for photos that are on my phone but not yet downloaded to a computer. I've been using it like this for some time now - it automatically backs up any photos I take on my phone, so I shouldn't lose them if something happened to the phone. And every so often I have a clear-out to regain storage space.

Google photos is a horrible app though, and they've gradually been making it worse (for example removing the option to backup photos not videos, and messing around with they way in which your storage allocation is shared between google drive and photos).

Anyway - I've got a Flickr Pro account and have realised that they have "auto-uploadr" on the mobile app which basically automatically uploads anything you take on your phone to a private album within your Flickr account. Surprisingly, there is no limit on how much you can have on there. So I am seeing how I go with using this in place of Google Photos

Might be useful to know for anyone who is already paying for a Flickr subscription, and wants to escape the clutches of google photo. Of course... there's no guarantee that in the future they don't change the rule for unlimited storage, but for now it seems quite handy.
 
Seeing this thread bumped reminded me this new service on Smugmug for uploading RAW files
 
Of course... there's no guarantee that in the future they don't change the rule for unlimited storage, but for now it seems quite handy.
It's unlikely that they will change the rules for paying customers - cloud storage is very cheap, and they really need paying customers to keep paying. What might happen though is that they go out of business.
 
So, who's using Flickr then ? I know RoyReed is, any of the other cool kids ? If you're not using it, which other platform are you on ?
 
So, who's using Flickr then ? I know RoyReed is, any of the other cool kids ? If you're not using it, which other platform are you on ?
I'm on Ipernity, have been since 2013 [and was on fotopic & flucker from before that].

And would recommend Ipernity, it is community owned and run, and three levels of paid "club" membership [defined by storage limits]
NO adverts, nor data skimmimg !

Membership comes with a lot of features, like articles [aka blog pages] - you can upload short videos as well as the usual sorts of images.
I've uploaded in excess of 10,000 images and I'm using approx 15% of "my" available storage.

explore --- ipernity: Explore the world

prices --- ipernity: ipernity Club

current introductory offer --- 12 months for the price of 9months [£25.60]

ps - also I can give you a "referral code" ...
 
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Yeah I'm still using it for my "proper" photos, mainly because I already have loads of stuff uploaded there and it's reasonably organised. I don't really bother with the community side of things too much these days though.
 
Thinking of going back to it but I’d need to stump up for a sub or do a new account.

It’s clear whatever algorithm insta uses rates my stuff badly (mostly ceramics tbf) so may just end up posting photos and ceramics on Flickr instead. At least there are various groups to get more traffic from
 
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